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ESA medicals

Postby Woodentop » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:50 pm

It seems that just about everybody who has an ESA medical scores no points or very few, even when they scored points before when claiming incapacity benefit. Could this be something to do with the doctors getting paid for everyone they get off benefits by any chance?
I have recently heard that the Job Centres are so overwhelmed by the sheer numbers of claimants getting no points that they are telling people to appeal immediately against the decision. Another government initiative that's gone horribly wrong and most likely only targeting the people who are genuine claimants and not getting the scroungers sorted.
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Re: ESA medicals

Postby ladymanvers » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:04 pm

Hear, Hear Woodentop!

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Re: ESA medicals

Postby Woodentop » Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:36 pm

As a follow on to my previous post, I have received an email from Benefits and Work this morning and it seems that the DWP have acknowledged that there are big problems with the ESA assessments. HOORAY !!!!! We could have told them that, even with fibro fog!
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Re: ESA medicals

Postby ladymanvers » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:57 pm

Hope that means they are going to sort things out instead of just talking about it...great if so!
Got to go out and find some bread now; nobody had any last evening when I sent OH...hope I don't fall as my balance is virtually non existent; my 6'4" son fell yesterday!

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Re: ESA medicals

Postby tamsin » Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:29 pm

Having recently gone through the extremely stressfull process of appliying for E.S.A, i can definately say the whole system that is meant to help in times of genuine need is seriously rubbish and a complete shambles. I too was advised to appeal immediately and thankfully after letters of comlaints and comiling a very long list of all the errors and mistakes made by the doctor, I have now been accepted for E.S.AI would be keen to know what other people who have been through this process think about it and if like me think that the disability discrimination act could be used to alter the medical examination.  In my view as a person suffering from fibro, having to give up work due to the pain and fatigue etc I feel I have been discriminated against on the basis that I look fine, can walk a little etc. The medical exam does not take into account the limited ability to sustain any activity and the pain that is involved as a result.I am sorry for going on a bit but the last 8 months has been hell due to all the stress that the above has caused not to mention all the knock on effects that that entails. :banghead:
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Re: ESA medicals

Postby LuvCats » Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:43 pm

tamsin I had a similar experience when I applied for ESA.
I found the whole process humiliating, degrading and full of flaws.
I was placed in the support group with 51 points and after I complained they placed me in the support group.
I'm having a similar experience now trying to get my nhs IHR because the doctors they use are ATOS and no matter how much medical evidence I submit, they don't assess it properly and consequently I've been turned down twice so far but I'm still battling on with the assistance of my union.
I lost my job last year due to ill health. :(
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Re: ESA medicals

Postby Woodentop » Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:48 pm

I have actually wondered about it being discrimination. If you think of the word disabled, it really means you are unable to do things as you once could. It doesn't mean you are totally incapable, as most of these ' experts' think you should be to get benefits, but that you have restricted ability to do the normal things that you could do in your previous life before fibro. If only they could sample a bit of our lives - they just might get the idea!
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Re: ESA medicals

Postby ladymanvers » Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:10 am

They wouldn't last five minutes Woodentop! :twisted:

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Re: ESA medicals

Postby leasky33 » Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:12 pm

i went through the medical as well, didn't last to long about 14 mins, asked the usual questions what is your typical day and all that, well failed the medical, went to appeal then it ended up going to a tribunal, but for some reason the esa herd that i failed it before i even did, i had to find out from the esa people as the tribunal folk didn't get in touch with me
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Re: ESA medicals

Postby smiler22 » Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:03 pm

does anyone have the list of what points you have to score for each level, work level, disabled level, support level etc. im still on incapcaity at the moment but i am still interested i the esa as i would like to know incase i have to go on to it in th efuture. any info woul dbe great.
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Re: ESA medicals

Postby justxme73 » Wed May 19, 2010 9:29 pm

i scored 0 points!!! havin bowel an bladder problems as well as the constant fatigue an my daughter havin to help washin my hair an escortin me on shoppin trips an everythin else fibro effects me.i dont see the need for medicals when your gp knows of the problems we suffer. anyway ive sent my appeal off, lets see what happens next!!!
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Re: ESA medicals

Postby Paulus1962 » Sun May 23, 2010 6:46 pm

Smiler, you can find out what the points are awarded for here:

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/@disabled/documents/digitalasset/dg_177366.pdf

Another point to consider is that the 'doctors' who conduct the assessments may not in actual fact be doctors and even if they are, may not have ANY experience in the areas they are making assessments for. Read this for more information:

http://www.whywaitforever.com/dwpatos.html
You can find my blog at http://paul-peacock.blogspot.co.uk/
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Re: ESA medicals

Postby mikebach » Tue May 25, 2010 3:19 pm

You may be interested in my contribution in http://www.ukfibromyalgia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=7092
Under the Freedom of Information Act I obtained an extract of the contract between the DWP and Atos. This states those with the medical condition "Fibromyalgia" come under the category "Tentatively invite to Medical Examination Centre".
I describe an approach that worked for me and which you might find useful.
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