ESA assessment, is this odd?

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ESA assessment, is this odd?

Postby PainBeGone » Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:24 pm

Hi everyone,

I had my ESA assessment at the ATOS assessment center two weeks ago, after reading so many horror stories I was a nervous wreck, like so many of us no doubt. I was expecting the examiner to ask me to demonstrate my mobility by asking me to move around etc, but she didn't. I wasn't asked to physically do anything at all. I wasn't asked to stand up, or take off my cardigan, or bend etc Is this normal? Has anyone else not been asked to "perform" like this?

I'm now a bag of nerves waiting for my letter from DWP to pop through my door. I have a mild panic attack every time the postman comes!
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Re: ESA assessment, is this odd?

Postby bluesheep » Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:55 pm

When I had my ESA assesment they didn't ask me to do anything. She looked at my medication and asked a few questions but she was very knowledgable on Fibromyalgia and said she was not going to do physical assesment as she did not want to flare me up by asking me to do things I would be unable to do anyway or to pull me around causing me more pain and stress than the long journey into london had already caused me. I questioned it with her as like you it worried me that she wasn't carrying out the full assesment but she just said ok can you stand un-aided?, Balence on one leg? Raise arms above head ? She said she wasn't trying to trick me it was just that she could see that I was not going to be capable of doing the activities in the assesment and didn't want to put me through all the stress of trying and failing. I was then placed in the support group.
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Re: ESA assessment, is this odd?

Postby PainBeGone » Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:11 pm

Hi blue sheep, thanks for replying!

I'm so glad to read you had a positive ATOS experience and
Were deservingly placed in the support group. The woman who assessed me was really lovely, not what I was expecting at all after reading about other people's experienes.

She didn't even mention anything about assessing my mobility, she could probably see that I was exhausted after waiting for 40 minutes and then walking along the corridor. My assessment room was the very last room on the long corridor, Sod's law huh? I had to keep stopping every 20 or 30 steps or so as my hips were really bad that day and if it wasn't for my stick, I wouldn't have made it!

She just asked questions about my daily life, what I was and was not able to do. House work, shopping, socialising (ha! What's that?), bathing and dressing, cooking etc - she asked about my old job and medication and that was it. I was only in there for about 25 minutes.

I thanked her for being so nice as I was leaving as I had been extremely
Anxious about the assessment and even had an anxiety attack in the waiting room.

I just hope her niceness wasn't a lie and that she sticks to the facts and what I told her.
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Re: ESA assessment, is this odd?

Postby lolabolla » Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:35 pm

I wasn't examined either.

My assesment lasted for approx 40 minutes, he asked lots of questions etc.

I was also placed in the support group.

I had my assessment recorded and my son also accompanied me.

To be honest I suspect the nurse was more nervous than me because he had to record the assessment.

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Re: ESA assessment, is this odd?

Postby PainBeGone » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:15 am

Hi Lola,

I'm glad to hear you were placed in the support group too! I am hoping that this will be the outcome for me too, but because im only 29, I feel like people just assume that I am lazy!

I get quite annoyed at people's attitudes when they realise I am on benefits, like I am some kind of scrounger. I feel like I need to keep justifying myself and the fact that at this point last year I was earning £26,000 a year in my full time job. Even the assessor was surprised when I spoke about my old job.

If I was able to work, I would work. No one chooses to leave a £26,000 a year job with company car etc and instead live on £71 a week!! It's insanity. No one chooses to live with the pain that we live with, the misery and the restrictions it puts on our day to day lifestyles.

If only they could see the bigger picture!

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that i will be found to have a limited capacity for work. I know my capabilities more than any assessor. I am a wreck with the waiting, I wish they would just put me out my misery and tell me already!!
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Re: ESA assessment, is this odd?

Postby andrew623 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:24 pm

Hi,
Just thought i'd add my 2 pennies worth. My wife had a nurse assess her at an ATOS WCA and she was lovely, she asked my wife to carry out various physical tasks, some which she couldn't do. Just to be on the safe side though, I asked her to relay back to me the inabilities of various functions of which she concurred. However, my wife had the dreaded 'Zero points' letter so we asked for the medical report to be sent to us. The nurse had in fact concurred with everything in the WCA, however it was the decision maker (DM) who decided the zero points, even though the nurse had documented my wife's inabilities to carry out certain tasks which should have got her 15 points. So in short, probably nothing to worry about the WCA, but the DWP DM in how he/she interprets it. Really hope you get what you should get. We appealed by the way and won. All the best.

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Re: ESA assessment, is this odd?

Postby PainBeGone » Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:50 pm

Hi Andrew,

Thanks for sharing you and your wife's experience. I'm glad you won your appeal, it's awful that you had to go through that whole process though!

I'm dreading the zero letter. You really cannot judge the outcome at all based on the assessment. I wonder why they don't cut out the ATOS middle man and just have the decision maker assess people, as it seems they don't take into account the ATOS assessors opinions anyway?!
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Re: ESA assessment, is this odd?

Postby hooplykim » Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:41 am

yes i just had my assessment done and the doctor did not ask me to do anything, i thought it must be a trick or something because we expect a fight as some of the people who do the examining can seem very uncaring etc. but this woman was lovely, she said she wouldn't poke or prod me as she knew it would wipe me out and she was very knowledgeable and helpful which was strange! she was a real doctor who worked with patients with fibro all the time. i was genuinely worried i would fail as it did not seem like a proper assessment and i failed once before. but this time i passed! without any difficulty which is maybe a good thing that the dwp are starting to see fibromyalgia as a real condition that stops so many people working and it was nice to be seen by somebody who didn't make you feel you were putting it on!

so good luck, i am sure that like myself you hopefully saw a doctor who saw your condition for what it is
Fibromyalgia is not who we are, Just something we have.
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Re: ESA assessment, is this odd?

Postby PainBeGone » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:34 pm

Hi Hooplykim.

I'm glad to hear your successful ATOS experience. Hearing all these positive experiences has really helped put my mind at ease a little. I've still not heard any news, but I'm hoping it won't be too much longer.
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Re: ESA assessment,

Postby fibrocomfort » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:32 pm

Hi
i am in the support group after being put in the wrag over a year ago i then asked for it to be looked at again reguarding my position etc and was put in the support group now i have just had the esa form come through

I have only been diagnosed with fibro severe back in december so im really not too sure the most important things to add to this form really could do with some help

i have cervical spondylosis
osteoarthritis in both knees
major depressive disorder
aniexty
low back pain
sciatica
IBS

so now with fibro


aNY HELP WOULD BE GREAT

anyone who has just got put into the support group i really cant go through it all again :(
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Re: ESA assessment, is this odd?

Postby Iceskatemum » Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:13 am

The thing to do is take each section of the form and answer each as honestly as you can . Use the spaces & if neccesary put additional paper with form to put down everything that you can think off . take your time don't rush it it is a complex form so taking your time might mean the difference between WRAG or support.

Use others to help if you can't do it your self , organisations such as CAB should be able to give advice . I also used the Benefits & work website and ended up in support without even a medical .

Good luck
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Re: ESA assessment, is this odd?

Postby fibrocomfort » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:32 am

Hi Iceskatemum

i have also got the benefit and works for a year , the form seems to have changed quite a bit since last time , i have got a recent gp letter stating all of my conditions and thati cant work to send off with it but looking through the form im not sure they will put me back in support group did they tell you what it was that you qualified on for the support group ( if u dont mind me asking ) i got in with just my mental health problems last time but i wondered how they react with fibro.

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ESA assessment, is this odd?

Postby Bexbexbex » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:06 pm

PainBeGone

Have you heard anything yet about your ESA?
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Re: ESA assessment, is this odd?

Postby Iceskatemum » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:06 pm

Sorry fibrocomfort for not getting back to you sooner . 'fraid I don't know what the qualifying conditions where, I didn't ask too afraid to rock the boat !

Good luck with your application.
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