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support groups and wrag

Postby zaininayah » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:04 pm

Hi.
I may have got the wrong page.
I need to ask about wrag and support group.
I read so many people having to go to jobcenter. Going to interviews. Being in wrag and support groups.
My question is I have never been asked to do this. I just send my certificate in and that's it.
Am I suppose to be in a group. I don't understand why mine I'd different. Am I doing something wrong?

Can admin please help me put this on the correct page. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Re: support groups and wrag

Postby FluppyPuffy » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:13 pm

I've moved you into here with you asking about claiming a benefit :cow-wave: :cow-wave: :cow-wave:

The Support Group, WRAG, attending work~focussed interviews at JobCentres, and a host of other things all relate to claiming Employment & Support Allowance (ESA).

Have you had to fill in any forms in relation to being unable to work due to your health conditions/problems??
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Re: support groups and wrag

Postby zaininayah » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:10 pm

Only filled up forms for sea in April. I called them in Oct last year and lady said my claim is ongoing and won't stop.
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Re: support groups and wrag

Postby zaininayah » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:19 pm

Oh also fill up forms regarding an assessment but didn't hear anything back. This was in June last year.
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Re: support groups and wrag

Postby FluppyPuffy » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:53 pm

If you haven't heard anything about an assessment, being placed in either group etc, it could suggest that your claim is still trundling thru the first stage of the process.

When you filled the first form in, were you receiving something like Income Support or Incapacity Benefit??
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Re: support groups and wrag

Postby zaininayah » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:08 am

No I was working. I got so bad couldn't work. I handed in my notice due to ill health. Worked as a carer. Employer said I could return when I wanted. And that's what I told esa. I also sent them all the emails from employer
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Re: support groups and wrag

Postby zappa20 » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:17 am

As FP said sounds as if your claim is still making its way through the system. Initially they planned to complete assessments within 14 weeks of a claim starting, but they're miles behind now. Some people are waiting up to a year, before being put into either of the 2 groups or being called for a F2F assessment. Keep sending in your sick notes in good time for now and payments will continue. You could try phoning again to see if thye're any nearer a decision on your claim.

Also looking a few months ahead, will you be eligible for income related ESA? ie don't have a partner who works or earns more than 112 approx per week if he does , or any form of household income from an occ pension , or savings less than £6000.
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Re: support groups and wrag

Postby Tigereyes » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:01 am

I am still waiting as well!!!!! The thing is I only on the basic rate of income based esa which is only 70 odd pound but until I am put in a group cannot get the enhanced rate. Does anyone know if they pay backdated money. :-? :-? :-? :-? :-?
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Re: support groups and wrag

Postby zappa20 » Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:33 am

Tigereyes wrote:I am still waiting as well!!!!! The thing is I only on the basic rate of income based esa which is only 70 odd pound but until I am put in a group cannot get the enhanced rate. Does anyone know if they pay backdated money. :-? :-? :-? :-? :-?


Yes the ESA component payment will be backdated to the 14th week I think of your claim. but only after you've been assessed and put into a group. Can also take a few weeks for it to process through the system. All new single basic ESA claims are paid at around £71 per week while in the assessment stage or interim appeal assessment stage if over 25. Similar to job seekers payment. Around £56 for under 25's singles..
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Re: support groups and wrag

Postby zaininayah » Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:37 pm

As far as I'm aware I am on income related. Does this mean they will continue to pay my NI. I remember talking to a lady last year who said they will continue to pay my national insurance.
I don't know how it works.
And I've always got a fuzzy confused head. Can someone elaborate and tell me how all this system works. Plz kindly explain as if u would to a child. I'm sorry but seriously I'm am finding it very difficult to absorb information.
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Re: support groups and wrag

Postby zappa20 » Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:27 am

zaininayah wrote:As far as I'm aware I am on income related. Does this mean they will continue to pay my NI. I remember talking to a lady last year who said they will continue to pay my national insurance.
I don't know how it works.
And I've always got a fuzzy confused head. Can someone elaborate and tell me how all this system works. Plz kindly explain as if u would to a child. I'm sorry but seriously I'm am finding it very difficult to absorb information.


Yes,your NI for you pension will be paid.. With a new claim you get NI paid and should recieve about £71 per week if over 25 which is called the ESA assessment rate. At some point you'll either be called into a F2F work capability assessment to decide if you're being put into either the WRAG or Support Group or don't meet the criteria for ESA.

Or if there's enough detail given on the large ESA form you sent in about your condition, they can make a decision from the form alone, and a F2F assessment isn't needed. The assessments and award decisions were supposed to happen around 14 weeks into a claim, but the process is very much delayed now with huge backlogs in many areas.

Once you've been fully assessed by either the F2F or form, you'll receive a letter from the DWP telling you which group you've been put in and it will detail the amounts you'll be paid in future . Which is the basic amount of £71 + a component rate . The value of the component rate varies according to the group you're put in and also your circumstances. But if over 25 and with no other income shouldn't work out at less than around £100 in total and could be a bit more. Once you've received your ESA group award letter from the DWP , you no longer need to send in doctors fit notes.

as well as your fortnightly payments increasing , you'll also recieve a backdated payment of whichever 'additional component rate ' you are owed for the weeks between 14 and when your award was decided. The longer it takes the larger the backdated payemnt will be. As you're an income based claim your payments will continue for as long as you continue to be assessed as meeting the criteria for an ESA award.

If put into the Support Group you don't need to attend work foucsed interviews, and will basically be left alone ,but if put into the WRAG group you'll be asked to attend a certain amount of work focussed interviews where you can be asked to do certain activities to prepare you for work, but can't be asked to work, or apply for any work positions. You could be asked to prepare a CV or unertake a CV writing or confidence building course etc. The frequency of WFI's and how they're done is very much left to the discretion of the DWP advisor assigned to your case.

If you fail the assessment and ESA is denied or are put into the WRAG group and feel you should be in the support Group then you have the oppurtunity to first ask for a mandatory recosnideration, and if still unsuccessful can then appeal to a Tribunal panel. But will leave that for another day.

The ESA process is very complex and has many variables .Hope the above makes sense and hasn't confused you further. lol.
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Re: support groups and wrag

Postby zaininayah » Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:19 am

Thank you zara. Excellent. Very helpful. Thank you.
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