What do they have you do at the assesment?

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What do they have you do at the assesment?

Postby KarenCakes » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:24 pm

Hello,

I am waiting for my PIP assessment date. I submitted the form due to osteoarthritis in my hips and neck in January, I walk with a stick and have limited movement due to the arthritis, but since then have also be diagnosed with FM and Nerve Compression in wrists.

I was just wondering if someone can tell me what kind of medical they give you or what kind of things they ask you to try and do?

When I saw the rheumatologist this week and he touched my shoulder blades I nearly came of the bed with the pain and I then had x-rays on my shoulders and wrists and it was agony. I had to spend the rest of the day in bed.

From what I can gather the people who assess you are not very nice and I just know I will already be having anxiety attacks before I get there which I know in turn will turn up the pain volume too, so I am really worried. If I know in advance what they will be expecting from me I can try and mentally prepare at least.

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Re: What do they have you do at the assesment?

Postby jackaddict » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:40 pm

When I had my PIP assessment in January, the woman just got me to move my arms and checked the mobility in my legs. She asked if it was ok to do this and told me to say if it hurt too much.
She was actually very nice and understood my ME/Fibro and didn't force me to do anything I would suffer too badly from.
If you explain that if you do certain movements that will cause you pain and suffering in to the next day, I'm sure that can only help your case.
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Re: What do they have you do at the assesment?

Postby leetankers » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:53 pm

They are not very friendly at the assessment at all but they are only doing their jobs Karen.They will maybe ask you to do 5 star jumps or 5 sit ups,then they may or may not send you round to the nearest pie shop for their dinner and time how long it takes you.They will probably try to trip you up to but you needn,t worry too much so long as you put your arms out to protect your head.They may ask you to hold your nose do see if you can feel ok and may also ask you to do squat thrusts whilst doing so.Just to see if you have coordination skills.If they do say then you can work then fine tell them you will appeal to the highest court in the land.....Oh no I forgot that,s Atos isn,t it?....Lee :roll:
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Postby Jeany » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:00 pm

I think reassurance not stupidity is what she was looking for , as these assessments can be very scary and make people nervous.
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Postby carishasafia » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:14 pm

its stressfull enough these assessments and can cause a FM flare..without silly remarks...the assesses are understanding and only ask you to lift your arms and legs..and not to do it if you feel pain...good luck.x
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Postby sue dowling » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:17 pm

dont worry i was assest at home not heard anything yet but she was very nice and understood fybro worrying is daft hun take things as they come and only do wot ur capable ov xxxxxx
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Postby FluppyPuffy » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:20 pm

I've done a bit of hunting around to try and get as clearer an idea of what can happen at the face~to~face consultation, and this is what I've found.
At the face-to-face consultation, the healthcare professional will identify the descriptors that they consider apply to you with respect to the PIP assessment.

To do this, they will ask you questions about your day-to-day life, your home, how you manage at work if you have a job, and about any social or leisure activities that you engage in (or have had to give up). They will often ask you to describe a typical day in your life.

When answering, explain your difficulties as fully as you can.
Tell them about any pain or tiredness you feel, or would feel, while carrying out tasks, both on the day of the examination and over time.
Consider how you would feel if you had to do the same task repeatedly.
Tell them if you need reminding or encouraging to complete the tasks.

Don’t overestimate your ability to do things.

If your condition varies, let them know and what you are like on bad days as well as good days. The healthcare professional’s opinion should not be based on a snapshot of your condition on the day of the consultation; they should consider whether your condition is variable, fluctuates or may change over time.
Will there be a medical examination?
At the consultation, the healthcare professional will be able to observe your ability to stand, sit and move around. They may watch you getting on and off the examination couch and bending down to pick up your belongings. They will check whether you have any aids or appliances, and the extent to which you use them. They will also be able to assess your levels of concentration and your ability to understand them and how well you express yourself.

The healthcare professional may also carry out a brief physical examination. They should explain each stage of the examination and ask your permission before carrying anything out. You should not be asked to do anything that will cause you pain or discomfort either during or after the consultation.

The overview
Before the face-to-face consultation ends, the healthcare professional should give you an overview of their findings and invite you to ask questions and add or clarify anything you wish.

You will not receive a formal indication at the face-to-face consultation of whether you will be awarded PIP.
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Re: What do they have you do at the assesment?

Postby leetankers » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:54 pm

Don,t worry too much about it.If you can,t do the squat thrust hold your nose thingy just tell them! :crazy:
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Re: What do they have you do at the assesment?

Postby denys » Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:00 am

Some people have really bad anxiety LT and it causes them to worry constantly especially over things they cant control and that is why they come here for some reassurance and support, telling them to just get on with it isnt particularly supportive and will I suspect cause members to feel aggrieved, if you feel you cant be supportive then perhaps it would be better not to post on those particular threads
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Re: What do they have you do at the assesment?

Postby leetankers » Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:06 am

Believe me Denys I suffer probably more than most from depression and anxiety but I do try t make light of things.i think there is too much worrying already about this illness and there is no need to worry about benefits if you are truly ill.Getting through each day without too much pain should be your aim and not claiming money off the country which already has very little money!
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Postby denys » Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:15 am

But if you have no other option but to try to claim and you have read all the horror stories then isnt it going to make you worry :?: :?: :?: :?: I completely understand where you are coming from in that this condition is enough for anyone to be coping with but I also know where the financial worry comes in.

Please dont think I am having a go at you, as staying positive and making light of thinks does help and indeed is essential in coping with everyday life, but reassurance from others who have been through the system is also needed from time to time
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Re: What do they have you do at the assesment?

Postby KarenCakes » Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:47 am

Hi, thank you to everyone who has responded (incl Lee) (I do have a sense of humour), and thank you for those who defended my apprehension too.

I am the type of person who has to know what's going to happen otherwise I second guess everything and work myself into a right state, so I do appreciate those of you who tried to give me a bit of a picture on this, there are so many peoples experiences of this, I just wanted the plain facts.

As for the comment on not over taxing the system and avoiding claiming benefits, I have never claimed any benefits in my life and paid into the system since I was 16 years of age. I am now 51 (do the math on how much tax and NI I have paid) and I can't draw my pension until I am 65. As I said in my previous post, my claim was put in for my osteoarthritis not my FM, I have had to give up a great job and take a more sendetary one, I have since then had to reduce my work hours significantly and probably will have to again soon. I can't even wipe my own backside anymore let alone do normal things, I don't know how much longer I will be able to work, and having no income for the next 14 years would be for anybody an impossibility, so while I appreciate someone saying we should not be claiming (and I will assume you mean those who pretend to be ill or disabled and then go off skiing in Vermont for the winter), I damn well think I have a right to do so.

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Re: What do they have you do at the assesment?

Postby karlor95 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:16 am

hi, when i had my assessment, they didnt ask me to do anything, and they didnt pphysically examine me either, they only took mmy pulse, blood pressure adn temp.....after id been sat 20 mins in the waitning room and a further 10 mins in the examination room, in the report they said my blood pressure etc was normal....... yes, im on medication to keep it that way! i thought the assessor was very friendly, it is not up to the assessor to make the deicision, it goes off for someone else for that x try not to worry, dont mention you have too many good days, this will get thrown back at you in the report! good luck and keep us posted. there is a group called 4UP who specialise in this sort of thing, you might find it useful to look on there? xxx
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Postby leetankers » Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:41 am

It,s great that you have a sense of humour Karen,that,s really the only thing that keeps me going.I have days when I am so low I feel like I,d rather be dead the pain in my legs is just awful.At the moment I am in a bit of a flare up the last 4 days have been tough.I still worry about everything but when I.m in this much pain I just try to get through each day the best I can.A sense of humour is a must I think.I do hope that everything goes well for you with regard to your claim and yes I did mean that all the scroungers out there who claim fraudulently should stop taking money out of the system.It is because of them that the rest of us aren,t believed and that maddens me!Take care..........Lee x
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Re: What do they have you do at the assesment?

Postby FluppyPuffy » Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:10 pm

Karen, rather than being paid due to someone having a particular illness/disability, PIP tends to be paid to help with some of the extra costs caused by long-term ill-health or a disability.

It is made up of the Daily living component and the Mobility component, so depending on how someone is affected, it could mean that either one or both components are paid, at either the standard or enhanced rate, which is what the assessment is supposed to help determine.
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