ESA Support group?

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ESA Support group?

Postby Flippy22 » Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:29 pm

Is anyone in the ESA Support group for Fibro alone and no other conditions? Also, were you placed there after appeal, did you have a face to face assessment or were you placed there just on the form and evidence you supplied alone? Just wondering what our chances are and how seriously the DWP take our condition TIA.
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Re: ESA Support group?

Postby migrembe » Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:21 pm

i was put in esa support group after appeal. i initially had an medical with atos and was put in wrag group.
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Re: ESA Support group?

Postby macca » Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:24 pm

The thing is it is very unlikely that you will be placed in the Support Group for ESA either for having one specific condition or a number of conditions. You have to think about this from a different angle. In order to award the Support Group component of ESA the decision maker has to consider whether any one of a number of descrioptors that apply to that benefit are met. i.e. its not about a tally of points for the support group, just about whether one fo the following descriptors apply.


The descriptors for the Support Group of ESA are as follows :

1. Mobilising unaided by another person with or without a walking stick, manual wheelchair or other aid if such aid can reasonably be used.
Cannot either
(i) mobilise more than 50 metres on level ground without stopping in order to avoid significant discomfort or exhaustion
or
(ii) repeatedly mobilise 50 metres within a reasonable timescale because of significant discomfort or exhaustion.

2. Transferring from one seated position to another.
Cannot move between one seated position and another seated position located next to one another without receiving physical assistance from another person.

3. Reaching.
Cannot raise either arm as if to put something in the top pocket of a coat or jacket.

4. Picking up and moving or transferring by the use of the upper body and arms (excluding standing, sitting, bending or kneeling and all other activities specified in this Schedule).
Cannot pick up and move a 0.5 litre carton full of liquid.

5. Manual dexterity.
Cannot either:
(a) press a button, such as a telephone keypad or;
(b) turn the pages of a book
with either hand.

6. Making self understood through speaking, writing, typing, or other means normally used.
Cannot convey a simple message, such as the presence of a hazard.

7. Understanding communication by—
(a) verbal means (such as hearing or lip reading) alone,
(b) non-verbal means (such as reading 16 point print or Braille) alone, or
(c) a combination of (a) and (b),
using any aid that is normally, or could reasonably be, used, unaided by another person.
Cannot understand a simple message due to sensory impairment, such as the location of a fire escape.

8. Absence or loss of control whilst conscious leading to extensive evacuation of the bowel and/or bladder, other than enuresis (bed-wetting), despite the wearing or use of any aids or adaptations which are normally, or could reasonably be, worn or used.
At least once a week experiences
(i) loss of control leading to extensive evacuation of the bowel and/or voiding of the bladder; or
(ii) substantial leakage of the contents of a collecting device;
sufficient to require cleaning and a change in clothing.

9. Learning tasks.
(a) Cannot learn how to complete a simple task, such as setting an alarm clock, due to cognitive impairment or mental disorder.

10. Awareness of everyday hazards (such as boiling water or sharp objects).
(a) Reduced awareness of everyday hazards leads to a significant risk of:
(i) injury to self or others; or
(ii) damage to property or possessions,
such that they require supervision for the majority of the time to maintain safety.

11. Initiating and completing personal action (which means planning, organisation, problem solving, prioritising or switching tasks).
Cannot, due to impaired mental function, reliably initiate or complete at least 2 sequential personal actions.

12. Coping with change.
(a) Cannot cope with any change, due to cognitive impairment or mental disorder, to the extent that day to day life cannot be managed.

13. Coping with social engagement due to cognitive impairment or mental disorder.
Engagement in social contact is always precluded due to difficulty relating to others or significant distress experienced by the individual.

14. Appropriateness of behaviour with other people, due to cognitive impairment or mental disorder.
Has, on a daily basis, uncontrollable episodes of aggressive or disinhibited behaviour that would be unreasonable in any workplace.

15. Conveying food or drink to the mouth.
(a) Cannot convey food or drink to the claimant’s own mouth without receiving physical assistance from someone else;
(b) Cannot convey food or drink to the claimant’s own mouth without repeatedly stopping, experiencing breathlessness or severe discomfort;
(c) Cannot convey food or drink to the claimant’s own mouth without receiving regular prompting given by someone else in the claimant’s physical presence; or
(d) Owing to a severe disorder of mood or behaviour, fails to
convey food or drink to the claimant’s own mouth without receiving —
(i) physical assistance from someone else; or
(ii) regular prompting given by someone else in the claimant’s presence.

16. Chewing or swallowing food or drink.
(a) Cannot chew or swallow food or drink;
(b) Cannot chew or swallow food or drink without repeatedly stopping, experiencing breathlessness or severe discomfort;
(c) Cannot chew or swallow food or drink without repeatedly receiving regular prompting given by someone else in the claimant’s presence; or
(d) Owing to a severe disorder of mood or behaviour, fails to—
(i) chew or swallow food or drink; or
(ii) chew or swallow food or drink without regular prompting given by another person in the physical presence of the claimant.


So essentially the question is more about whether one condition or a number of conditions that you have, have such an impact upon your abilities that the decision maker is satisfied that one of the above descrtiptors is met.

The key is that you fully explain your illness and how it affects your abilities, using evidence where appropriate to enable to decision maker to be satisfied that at least one of the descriptors listed above applies.

My wife suffers with Fibro amongst many other things which include Sacroiliac Joint problems in the spine. We were able to satisfy the decision maker that, with a full and detailed description of how her prolems impact her abilities, coupled with a raft of varied evidence to support the claim, the Mobilising descriptor was met.


Remember, when consider whether a descriptor is met your abilities should be considered in line with the following :

Reliably, in a timely fashion, repeatedly and safely
An individual must be able to complete an activity descriptor Reliably, in a Timely fashion, Repeatedly and Safely; Otherwise they should be considered unable to complete the activity described at that level.

Reliably means to a reasonable standard.

In a Timely fashion means in less than twice the time it would take for an individual without any impairment.

Repeatedly means completed as often during the day as the individual activity requires. Consideration needs to be given to the cumulative effects of symptoms such as pain and fatigue – i.e. whether completing the activity adversely affects the individual’s ability to subsequently complete other activities.

Safely means in a fashion that is unlikely to cause harm to the individual, either directly or through vulnerability to the actions of others; or to another person.
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