My pip decision

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My pip decision

Postby maxinevalentina » Fri May 29, 2015 2:48 pm

i finally got a letter back about my pip claim
It says thank you for your claim
Iv considered all the evidence about your condition and how they affect you as identified " how the disability affects you"
Iv decided your not entitled to pip.
Unfortunately you dont meet the criteria for pip

This is really annoying I told them I couldn't do much I told them I'm on no medication I can't cope with the pain everything else , but iv been rejected , what do I do I'm really upset.
Need some help advice please
Thank you xx
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Re: My pip decision

Postby sheen » Fri May 29, 2015 3:16 pm

Hi, Just read ur message. I'm not sure if u got any help completing ur form. If not get in contact with fight back on Facebook. They'll point u in the right direction. First u must call dwp and ask for reconsideration. Then fightnack will give u info on wot u should send to dwp in support of this. I've just done my call. Now I need to supply a day in the life diary and supporting letters from g.p. although I am on meds and awating pain clinic appointment to 're evaluate them. Nothing is working atm. Hope this helps. Hugs xx
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Re: My pip decision

Postby maxinevalentina » Fri May 29, 2015 3:29 pm

My mum helped me fill out the application coz I can't read very well I didn't understand the questions
I scored 0 at the assessment, I don't no how or y coz I was talking about my dad days 99% of the assessment
Kind of feel like giving up they think it's all in my head like I'm just a stupid little girl
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Re: My pip decision

Postby mir112 » Fri May 29, 2015 3:48 pm

just read your message did you put you are not on medication this is probably a factor in decision this will go against decision as medication is a factor you get points depending on what your taking for pain x
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Re: My pip decision

Postby cdcrossy » Fri May 29, 2015 4:03 pm

i would ask for reconsideration and try and get a letter from any specialists you have as u have 28 days from the date on letter to ask for reconsideration if u google fightback forums they have a lot of information on this stuff
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Re: My pip decision

Postby whoami » Fri May 29, 2015 4:10 pm

mir112 wrote:just read your message did you put you are not on medication this is probably a factor in decision this will go against decision as medication is a factor you get points depending on what your taking for pain x




It seems very sad to be judged on what and the amounts of medication you are on. Some people take no medication for pain, it does not lessen the pain they have.
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Re: My pip decision

Postby maxinevalentina » Fri May 29, 2015 4:16 pm

I said I'm on no medication in the application and at the assessment they never took that in to account
my specsilest is 100% useless he wouldn't help me out my docs are useless
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Re: My pip decision

Postby SaRahsBg » Fri May 29, 2015 5:38 pm

when I had my mine done the woman lied said I had jeans and tight fitting boots on hmmmm trackies n trainers said I wanted to move to London and I love shopping at busy times they all lie it's so wrong
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Re: My pip decision

Postby *Lisa* » Fri May 29, 2015 6:12 pm

Be warned as it happened to me:

Ask if they got a GP report. If so ask for a copy to be sent to you before your appeal. In my case my GP report was the reason why i did not get MRC (DLA)

A registrar filled mine out, she sent a medical report from the Rhuemi dated 2006!!!!! (was in 2014) also put down that CFS was not anywhere in my notes down as diagnosed (funny that cause all GP's told me this and that was down to the CFS over the years) then in the boxes where they ask for info she just threw a few words not enough for them to understand my condition and how it effects me daily. Then there was questions that she never answered that were relevent to my application which was left blank!!!

I was not happy and called up my GP surgery and spoke to one of the partners. He apologised and said that i could write him a letter explaining how my illnesses effect me for future claims, also refered me back to the Ruemi for a CFS confirmation diagnoses (something on paper) and i am allowed to ask for any notes/paperwork and results to be printed off so i can send them all in for proof.

The thing is many doctors see you and know how much pain your in and prescribe the meds/therapies etc but what most of us dont do is explain how it effects us in the way of washing/dressing etc as were just in there for pain relief. The doctors need information so soon as people get there forms to fill then speak to your GP or there receptionist or write a letter with all the info they need to put down. If they have any questions about what you put then they can always call you in for a chat about all.
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Re: My pip decision

Postby cdcrossy » Sat May 30, 2015 9:49 pm

i tried that lisa and had murder with my gp i asked for a supporting letter and was told no we do not do supporting letters so i asked for my medical records and received old one to which i had to tell them what was wrong with me and after a few screams on the telephone i had a upto date one. i also asked any specialists i had at the the time and ones i could remember to also send reports as they would have had to send to docs so i knew they had em. the best thing i can suggest is to gather as much evidence as you can any letters for appointments or any up and coming appointments, prescriptions, medical report from doc and make sure all your medicine and illnesses are on it. i just had my assessment and still have just sent in a report from a occupational therapist asking my housing people to give my house a major adaption and also my anxiety doc is writing a letter stating I'm attending there also a new tablet i scanned the prescription in all is going via special delivery to dwp even as i just received a letter saying we have your report from atos and waiting or decision maker. just copy everything inc your pip form so u have a record just to cover your self and always send via special delivery if you can as you get a signature and know its arrived.
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Re: My pip decision

Postby clairbear » Sun May 31, 2015 2:02 pm

Hi Maxine,

I'm so sorry about the PIP decision, but don't give up.
Request a reconsideration ASAP and submit as much information as you can to them - Ask for a copy of any reports they used to make the decision and also the assessment report.

Someone mentioned a daily diary, this is a good idea as you can mention specific descriptors within the diary
i.e I walked to the shop, about 20m away but had to stop three times because of the pain in my...legs, arms...etc
* I could only buy a small milk as I can't lift or carry the 4 pint bottles,
* In the mornings my partner helps me get in and out of the shower (If your shower is in the bath its more of a task as you need someone to help you over the ledge etc..)
these kinds of things are what they should be looking out for in your forms and from your assessment.

I know its hard as we all have bad & good days but I summarised mine as bad months & mediocre days (does anyone have a good day really?) I made sure I still emphasised what I couldn't do, the restrictions are still there just lesser than normal.

Medication wise this is difficult, you shouldn't be penalised for not taking medication, what I'd say is that your undergoing various treatments and at present aren't on specific medications as they don't suit you or don't work - you can tell them if you are using a tens machine, holistic treatments, over the counter products, cognitive behaviour therapy, acupuncture etc..
I was only taking co-codamol, tramadol and sertraline when I completed my report but since then had tried several different meds (I now take about 8 meds a day!) I made sure I commented on them, even if they didn't help.
If they requested a GP report it should have this information on but often the reports can be sketchy and it only takes a GP who doesn't know you to not list anything useful or the way the question is worded to make it pointless.

You do have to be quite forthright in the interview, take the lead, don't let them lead you down a one way path (having someone with you to chip in and bounce comments about bad days off always helps). If you feel you didn't get yourself across well then check the report and query all the statements that aren't right.
If you didn't understand the claim form questions you should tell them someone helped you fill it in, the assessment is all based on these questions so if you had no one there to help and you didn't understand,the assessment would of been useless in supporting you.

Sorry to bombard you with info, its so difficult to help via a forum when there are so many things to consider so get yourself to CAB, Welfare advice or anyone who specializes in PIP to help you put the reconsideration together.
Good luck, let us know how you get on.
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