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Madeline mcCann do you follow this up?

Postby princess » Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:00 pm

http://www.scribd.com/doc/15889913/MADD ... todown=pdf

download for Admaral's book the Truth of the Lies?

Whether you believe him or not, its some read

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Re: Madeline mcCann do you follow this up?

Postby armanisgirl » Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:27 pm

I just had a look at this, but have to say I gave up after a few short minutes, as I found it very difficult to read. The translation is not the best, which is why I find it hard to read. I do watch the latest updates as and when they appear on the news, but don't 'follow' the story totally.

Since Madeline disappeared, I have had a lot of different thoughts regarding it all; from being one of thousands who were shocked that the adults left the children alone, to hoping that the little girl will be found safe. I do believe the investigation wasn't carried out properly from the onset, but also wonder what happened regarding the 'evidence' that suggested Madeline had died and been in the hire car boot etc. It's odd that this evidence has faded into the background if the authorities sincerely believed she had somehow died in the apartment. And now the authorities are interested in the activities of a convicted paedophile that was known to be in the area at the time of madeline's disappearance. I doubt that I am alone in thinking that the truth may never be found, but I still hope that somehow Madeline is found, and soon. Her being found will put an end to the whole mystery, one way or another, and bring some form of closure to those closely involved with the family. But I also worry that if she is found alive, how she would cope being reunited with her biological family; 2 years may as well be 20 years to a child of that age; if she's alive and well, she most likely believes she is the child of another family, and leaving that family will also cause a great deal of psychological trauma.

In regards to the adults leaving the children asleep; as I say, I was quite shocked by this, as it's something I personally would never consider. I would have thought that the Madeline case would have served as a warning to all parents, yet just yesterday the local news reported a woman had left her two children (aged 4 and 5) on a beach in Merseyside, to go shopping!!!! When the children were discovered alone, they were neck-deep in water, stranded on a little island as the tide had come in. This goes to prove that no matter how public a child's disappearance is, lessons still are not learned by the same public who voice their opinions about the parenting skills of others!! And there's me; paranoid about my youngest (9) playing out the front with her friends in a very quiet cul-de-sac!
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Postby princess » Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:52 pm

Hi

thanks for the reply.
I wasnt sure if this was appropriate for the forum.
But i have been following this since the first day. I feel there is a lot more to what we know, that why why i actually read a lot about it.
I honestly think this wee tot is dead...................i dont know if it was an accident or whatever, but i really feel she is at rest.
But there is a lot more than we know im sur eof that.
What really annoys me about this is if it was a single parent from a not so good area, they would have been jailed and the kid would have been taken into care - believe me this does happen even today.
But if the parents are guilty of one thing, it is neglect!
Who would go to a cafe/rest even nearby and leave three little kids in bed asleep.
Yes i agree its a hard read, i have managed half of it and im gobsmacked at what has been said and as i worked with a dog, i feel that the sniffer dogs owners would not have allowed the press to get their story and put on tv and internet (utube) if they were in the least hesitant about the outcome.
anyway i am on a forum and have been for ages and ages, but i will not publish it on the forum as its very anti the McCanns, with a few pros.
If you want the site address then pm me.
But otherwise i will just leave this for people to have a look if they want.
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ps If this upsets anyone in any way then please just pm me, that is not my intention at all.
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Postby Deegill » Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:38 pm

I've not brought myself to read it, yet.

From the first day, i thought they should look at the abusers, and even if she had been bought for a childless couple.

I'm disgusted that the parents could leave such young children alone, i remember reading, that the night before, they had been left, and when dad went to check up on them, or was it mum? anyway, maddie came out crying saying, dont leave us alone - think it was the mum now, and what do they do? go and do it again the following night!

How can they do such a thing, lf i had a choice, go out and have fun or look after my children - i know what id choose!

I agree with whats was said in the earlier post, if Maddie is alive, she now thinks she has a new family and will need a lot of cancelling if found and taken back to own family.

Apart of me, thinks she is dead and at rest, so she isnt traumatized,

2 yrs is along time, so if alive, i do hope she is happy in one way or another, cant bear to think of a child upset.
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Postby unigirl1981 » Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:33 am

princess wrote:
What really annoys me about this is if it was a single parent from a not so good area, they would have been jailed and the kid would have been taken into care - believe me this does happen even today.
But if the parents are guilty of one thing, it is neglect!
Who would go to a cafe/rest even nearby and leave three little kids in bed asleep.
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ps If this upsets anyone in any way then please just pm me, that is not my intention at all.



I do hope they find her and i could never imagine the pain her parents are going through, they must be very brave and strong to not have had a breakdown - but i have to echo the above quote.

if me and OH left our boys alone the paper would read "council estate, working class parents leave kids alone" and we would be persecuted.

I do feel that they are being "let off" for leaving them alone because they are doctors living n a big posh house. anyone else would have been prosecuted for child neglect and endagerment by now.

It wasnt even next door- it was down the road and round the corner!!! i wont even knock on next doors door when they are in bed even though i could hear them with the front door open.

Sorry if it offends people but its how i feel.
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Postby velvet » Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:58 am

unigirl1981 wrote:
princess wrote:
What really annoys me about this is if it was a single parent from a not so good area, they would have been jailed and the kid would have been taken into care - believe me this does happen even today.
But if the parents are guilty of one thing, it is neglect!
Who would go to a cafe/rest even nearby and leave three little kids in bed asleep.
princess

ps If this upsets anyone in any way then please just pm me, that is not my intention at all.



I do hope they find her and i could never imagine the pain her parents are going through, they must be very brave and strong to not have had a breakdown - but i have to echo the above quote.

if me and OH left our boys alone the paper would read "council estate, working class parents leave kids alone" and we would be persecuted.

I do feel that they are being "let off" for leaving them alone because they are doctors living n a big posh house. anyone else would have been prosecuted for child neglect and endagerment by now.

It wasnt even next door- it was down the road and round the corner!!! i wont even knock on next doors door when they are in bed even though i could hear them with the front door open.

Sorry if it offends people but its how i feel.



i totally agree - i live on a "council" (housing association) road and in the summer it is very popular for the residents of houses to sit out the front on some steps having a chat and maybe some food and or drink together - all the people that do this are in full view of their houses and at no greater distance than if they were sat seperately in their back gardens - not socialising and building a community. however it has been made clear by social workers that were anything to happen - say a plane crash into one of the houses :roll: or a boiler explode whatever then the adults would be charged with neglect!!!!!

so this means - if you are in your house and you and your children are killed by some sort of horrendous accident you are a good parent, if you sit in the back garden and dont socialise and the same accident takes your children but you survive then you are a good parent, if you sit the same distance out the front forming a good community where people know and look out for each other and the same accident occurs with you surviving then you are neglecting your children and are a bad parent.

the usual solution for this is during holidays and on extra hot weekends the kids are allowed to stay up later - with quite a large number deciding it is to hot outside and adults are boring so they go in and what tele or play on games (or repeatedly fill water pistols) - of course if the plane or boiler or whatever accident occurs with the children dressed and the front door open then there is no neglect just a terrible terrible outcome.

you do have to wonder sometimes if people actually think about the "rules" they come up with.
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Postby princess » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:39 pm

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/ ------------ a lot of information on this site!
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