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Tender points

Postby Angieuk » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:49 am

Hi I have tried pressing on the points on the diagram of tender points. I have lots of tender points but they are in the same area but don't seem to be exactly as they are on the diagrams. Are tenders points in the exact spots and can we feel them ourselves?
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Re: Tender points

Postby Pepperty » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:04 am

from what I gather those tender points are predominantly trigger points - where the nerve endings are? they are generally in pairs

A rheumatologist can be experienced in knowing exactly where the points are, I know from testing myself a millometre out doesnt hurt but when I press in the exact spot its eyewatering painful! A specialist knows correct amount of pressure to use as well, think its 7lb?

I know it feels to me that I hurt all over, and I'm skin sensitive to general touch, and clothing etc etc but the pain on pressing specific spot is sweet and sharp and unlike my normal bodily aches. I have a diagnosis of fibromyalgia from my GP and havnt been refered to any specialists so I'm not sure if the pressure point test is a prequisit of a diagnosis? I'm sure members who have been refered to a rheumatologist will have more info for you
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Re: Tender points

Postby KarenG53 » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:16 pm

Hi I' was diagnosed with FM in the early 80's... :( ... back then not much was known about FM in the UK... so all my research on it was done via the internet in the USA... they seemed to be so much more knowledgeable about it all... I still check out the web sites from time to time just to see if anything new has been discovered to help in anyway..
At my first visit to the Rhumatologist I was amazed that he could just touch the places where all my pain was and say straight away it's FM :-o up to then I'd been back and forth to the doctors fobbed off with varies pills and creams.. I was even beginning to think maybe as some people had hinted it was all in my head :crazy: !!!!
Today it's a different story in the fact that it is now recognised as a real illness/syndrome ....

Once you've been seen by the Rhumatologist you will have a pretty good idea what the pain feels like and where your tender points are... and what treatment options are open to you...

I think maybe the one of the best pieces of advise I can give to anyone who has it is... listen to your body...don't give up the fight no matter how bad the pain gets... keep yourself as fit as possible even a little exercise will help... yes there are days ...sometimes weeks when it's harder to over come the pain and do anything... but take it from someone who was convinced her life as she'd known it was over and gave up :cry: .. I ended up having carers...I didn't want to do anything...but wallow in my grieve... took to my bed...and gave up...but today after a long and slow fight back I'm living a new life with support of my family (be from the other side of the world) and a wonderful man :-D .... no way will I let FM dictate to me :nono: ... I'm not saying that everyday is pain free... and yes there are some WOW is me day's as well... but I know how much harder it is to get back to any kind of fitness...far easier to try and keep it... as the saying goes use it or lose... Good luck with your specialist appointment :-D
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Re: Tender points

Postby FluppyPuffy » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:04 pm

Pressing your own tender points isn't usually recommended Angie, it's better for it to be done by a suitable medical professional as they will know exactly where to check, the sort/amount of pressure to apply, an depending on your reaction, know if it actually is a tender point.

Tender points and trigger points are different. With a tender point, when one is pressed pain/discomfort will be felt at that point/local area. Whereas a trigger point is a firm nodule that can be felt in a tight, rope~like muscle. When a trigger point is pressed, it will hurt in the area that is being pressed as well as shooting pain to other regions of the body.

The points are in pairs and tend to be in pretty much the same area for all of us. Generally for an FM dx, an minimum of 11 of the 18 tender points have to be present. However if less than 11 points are present, an FM dx may still be applicable as the tender point test was developed for selecting FMers for research studies. General patients are often dx'd with FM using less strict guidelines which includes widespread pain along with many of the commonly associated symptoms.
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Tender points

Postby Morgana » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:07 pm

I saw a Rheumatologist last year and he knew exactly where the pressure points were... I very nearly left him singing falsetto!
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Re: Tender points

Postby Angieuk » Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:01 am

Thank you for your replies. I am definitely going to ask to see a Rheumatologist because if its not FM then I want an answer to what the pain is. I know my pain and stiffness are getting worse. Some days I can hardly walk as my legs are so heavy and I find it hard to move when I've been sitting or standing still. Everything seems to hurt now including my hands an feet.
I can cope with it but for my peace of mind I need to know what it is and the blood tests have ruled out things like arthritis and lupus. If the doctor won't refer me I will ask for a private referral as a one off.
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Re: Tender points

Postby monica » Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:46 pm

At my first visit to the Rhumatologist I was amazed that he could just touch the places where all my pain was and say straight away it's FM up to then I'd been back and forth to the doctors fobbed off with varies pills and creams.. I was even beginning to think maybe as some people had hinted it was all in my head !!!!


I can relate to this totally as that's what happened to me. The rheumatologist pressed away at certain places with a little gadget thing he had and boy did it hurt! it was so good to finally be told what was wrong. I'd definately ask to be refered to a Rhumatologist.

Good luck I hope you can see one without having to go private.
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Re: Tender points

Postby Angieuk » Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:22 pm

Hi I am definitely going to ask for a referral . Can a gp press the tender points or does it have to be a rheumatologist because I want mine pressed as its the most reliable way of diagnosing fibro isn't it.
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Re: Tender points

Postby monica » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:57 pm

Hi Angie

I don't know if Doctors do the pressing tender points thing or not. None of mine ever have. You could always ask and see if he/she will do it. It's certainly one of the main ways of diagnosing FM from what I can gather.

Let us know how you get on.
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Re: Tender points

Postby fatanne1 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:52 pm

hi my gp diagnosed my fm and did the pressure test, not all the pressure points but elbows was a def cause I nearly knocked her over when I jumped lol. I yhink it takes a special rheumy or gp to be any help, rheumy I saw basicly told me I was fat and lazy. great. im def not lazy and the weight was to do with different cocktails of drugs.. came out feeling poop ......!!!!!!!! x :(
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Tender points

Postby Morgana » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:51 pm

(Hugs). I hate when doctors make you feel like that. (Hugs).

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