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no hospital records

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:39 am
by long time
Hi, I'm new. Hope you are all awap.

Sorry to dive straight in with a question, but have any of you been hospitalized for whatever reason, given treatment, medication etc when only to inquire about accessing medical notes they have no record of you ever being there !?

I was hospitalised on 3 occasions a few yrs ago and apparently there ar no records of this whatsoever !!

Thanks

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:09 pm
by long time
Anyone else find this odd ?

Sorry I'm too foggy to go into detail and do proper introduction atm, but would appreciate any replys .

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:33 pm
by lolabolla
I recently requested my medical records from my GP's and the local hospital.

My GP's records only go back to 1976 wgen they went computerised and my hospital records are sketchy too, nothing before 1995.

I'm still fuming.

Lola xx

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:52 pm
by long time
Hi Lola, thanks for your reply x

This is only from 15 yrs ago, 3 admissions, like they never happened !
I got put on all the benefits as a result, but it never happened ?
What's that all about ?

Did you find you records of any use Lola ?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:04 pm
by lolabolla
The medical records were no use realy.

I wanted the records from my childhood to prove that I was always at the local hospital with sprains broken bones ect.

Because I have also been diagnosed with hypermobility and FMS recently it would prove to my former employers that it is getting worse with age.

I'm in the process of appealing ill health retirement at the moment so any additional evidence is likely to sway their findings.

Lola xx

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:21 pm
by long time
Good luck with it all Lola xx

Anyone else had this type of experience ?

Re: no hospital records

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:08 pm
by SharonL42
I work in ths NHS & Information Governance is a big issue these days so we no longer hold medical notes for years & years. Each trust will have an IG policy which will state how long individuals medical records should be kept for....after this time the notes will be confidentially destroyed.

Hope this helps

Sharon X

Keep Smiling :-)

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:30 pm
by Iceskatemum
If notes are about you health would you not have to be informed?
I heard that way before the data protection act there seemed to be a purge of all sorts of records like if a shop had a customer record of something you'd bought they destroyed the record but didn't think it would apply to hospital records. Thought they had to be kept for 100 years or something.

May be its just a case of not filing it properly?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:52 pm
by SharonL42
No ...they don't have to be kept for anywhere near that long. NHS trusts should only keep confidential medical information for as long as it's relevant & it will then either be archived or confidentially destroyed. It's all to do with maintaining confidentiality....most records are now kept electronically.
Im a Childrens nurse & our trust will keep a Childs hospital records until they are 25 years & then they will be destroyed . Obviously any relevant info will have been passed onto an adult consultant if needed. If you have an ongoing medical issue then those notes are kept.

Check with your local trust about how long they keep notes for.

Keep Smiling :-)

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:58 pm
by SharonL42
Looking at some trusts sites it seems 6 to 8 years after the last appointment for a condition seems to be the average time they are kept. The law states that trusts shouldn't be holding onto confidential information any longer than necessary.

Sharon xx

Keep Smiling :-)

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:50 pm
by long time
Even with regards to lifetime diagnosis ?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:24 pm
by Iceskatemum
While I understand the need for space and that if you have a file lying around in a filing system or storage it has an increased possibility of being read etc. I am I guess still shocked that medical information on a person is not kept longer than 6-8 years.

Some illness' are slow in thier DX eg FM takes on average 5-7 years for a person to get a formal dx, the same I think for endometriosis.

Some vital information may be lost if files are destroyed as early as 6 years.

Just my take on it as I'm sure the powers that be have considered all angles.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:44 am
by long time
Yes, I completely agree with you iceskate mum !
Do they also destroy criminal records, social services records etc ??
So each time you have an appointment with yet another new gp, you have to fill them in on your whole history aswell as tell them why you are there on that occasion in the 5, 10 at best 20 min slots ??

I'm mean, how on earth do these people(gps etc) learn when they don't even have a history on us ?
For example, what if we had glandular problems as a child ?
Isn't this connected to a Fibro dx later on ? How would the gps/specialists ever know, how can they ever learn, if they don't use/have information available to them ? Is that supposed to be our job ?
Are we supposed to fill them in on every appointment ?
No-one has ever told me that !!

Anyone else totally bewildered/had any experience of this ?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:02 am
by long time
Sorry repost xx

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:10 am
by long time
So glad no-one else sees this as a problem and has had no issues with this.

Just seems like us three (hugs)

Still baffled though :s

LT xx