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arghhhh docs!

Postby richy24 » Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:41 pm

Hi.
Well i had seen doc again tuesday n more bloods were done and again everything is fine......but me who feels s#*t.
So upto date iv had sore muscles etc ibs symptoms, tiredness, etc etc etc.

Googled and made myself paranoid to the max about a whole host of horrible c words, auto immune diseases, hiv and iv made myself a wreck and having suffered anxiety and depression im always told thats the issue.
Iv had these swollen glands for over a year under jaw and i assumed wisdom teeth were culprit and i keep chewing my mouth and i keep gettin this 1 spot on the inside of cheek.

I suggested fibro and cfs to docs who r like nah nothin up after this long something would show up or show clues to other conditions.

I know how anxiety and depression are but can it really make you feel soooo like this?!?! I thank yous for always talking to me bout this.

Anyone whos seen other posts will know all tests iv had

Thank u, i hope you are all ok x
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Re: arghhhh docs!

Postby *Lisa* » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:33 pm

Hi Richy

Iv had these swollen glands for over a year under jaw and i assumed wisdom teeth were culprit and i keep chewing my mouth and i keep gettin this 1 spot on the inside of cheek.


Maybe see your dentist to rule out any wisdom teeth problems and also ask about TMJ .

People with anxiety can clench and grind there teeth which can cause symptoms of TMJ. This will include swollen jaw / neck pain / toothaches / ear aches / stiff neck leading to stiff shoulders / tension headaches/migraines / fatigue and facial pain.
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Postby FluppyPuffy » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:37 pm

Basically, yes they can.

Many people with depression and/or anxiety suffer from chronic pain and/or other physical symptoms. These can include:
Headaches. These are fairly common in people with depression. If you already had migraine headaches, they may seem worse if you're depressed.
Back pain. If you already suffer with back pain, it may be worse if you become depressed.
Muscle aches and joint pain. Depression can make any kind of chronic pain worse.
Chest pain. Obviously, it's very important to get chest pain checked out by an expert right away. It can be a sign of serious heart problems. But depression can contribute to the discomfort associated with chest pain.
Digestive problems. You might feel queasy or nauseous. You might have diarrhea or become chronically constipated.
Exhaustion and fatigue. No matter how much you sleep, you may still feel tired or worn out. Getting out of the bed in the morning may seem very hard, even impossible.
Sleeping problems. Many people with depression can't sleep well anymore. They wake up too early or can't fall asleep when they go to bed. Others sleep much more than normal.
Change in appetite or weight. Some people with depression lose their appetite and lose weight. Others find they crave certain foods -- like carbohydrates -- and weigh more.
Dizziness or lightheadedness.

Because these symptoms occur with many conditions, many depressed people never get help, because they don't know that their physical symptoms might be caused by depression and/or anxiety. A lot of doctors miss the symptoms, too.

Depression and/or anxiety can cause real changes in your body. For instance, it can slow down your digestion, which can result in stomach problems.

Depression seems to be related to an imbalance of certain chemicals in your brain. Some of these same chemicals play an important role in how you feel pain. So many experts think that depression can make you feel pain differently than other people.

In some cases, treating depression/anxiety, with therapy or medicine or both, can help resolve physical symptoms.

Since pain and depression can sometimes go together, easing your pain may help with your depression. Some antidepressants can help with chronic pain, too.

Other treatments can also help with painful symptoms. Certain types of focused therapy, such as CBT, can teach you ways to cope better with the pain.
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Re: arghhhh docs!

Postby richy24 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:59 am

Thanks for replies.
I just hate feeling like this, all they done was hand me a leaflet about going to c a mental health expert. I feel soooo horrible but iv been extremely down and having bad thoughts. I cant sleep well in this heat and its adding to fatigue. Iv had pains underarms and in groin and pelvis and every now an again discomfort ( not pain) wen peeing but again all nothing apparently. Iv become obsessed with poking and prodding trying to see if theres anything new, particularly the glands under my jaw which have been there for over a year but again tht could be my teeth and tmj as there is a crack wen i open mouth its like it grinds.
I hate this awful discomfort in my side too under ribs but ultrasound was clear n so was xray. Iv had lumps on testicles checked twice and again just varioceles etc but i dont know if tht could be causing the pubic/pelvis discomfort.
I spend so much time crying and upset its so hard to deal with.
I know i have brought some of it on googling (googling the most minor thing says the worst) but i wouldnt have to had the docs really helped.
:'( i just dnt know how much more i can take i have no support cos everyone tells me im being silly but they dnt feel how i feel.
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Re: arghhhh docs!

Postby *Lisa* » Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:36 am

Hi Richy,

You will have to excuse me if i go over things once again as too early for me to go through previous posts to update myself :oops: :sleep: :sleep:

Lets just go over a few things :

As flup said mental health can cause so many phsyical symptoms as shown above and the more you become anxious the more the symptoms will excabate.

Is there any trigger you can think of which was the start of symptoms?

Has the GP felt for stiffness? felt the rib cage area? felt the swollen areas?

Its very hard to disinguish physical from mental health when symptoms mimick each other.

I would advice you to seek some mental health support this will help your anxiety and hopefully calm symptoms down. This would be a good starting point. Once you have had your sesssions and discharged then just maybe the GP will look more into the phsyical side of things if symptoms still causing every day pain and problems.

The trouble with anxiety (being a sufferer myself) is you want / need answers now. The more i wait the more my mind spins :crazy: the trouble with illnesses like fibro and cfs is that it can take many years before a diagnoses is made because of the collection of symptoms, the way it mimicks others and the clear blood results and x/rays etc.

My GP first thought my neck pain and stiffness was anxiety and stress but after my 5th referal to the physio they decided that it was a physical illness. I was having symptoms for many years before a diagnoses.

In your case from what i have managed to gather is the GP would like you to have some mental health support before physical symptoms are taken into account to the for front of it all. The mental health team can also assess whether or not they feel symptoms are from physical pain or related to depression / anxiety and that your caught up in a circle of it all now.

Hope that makes sense :crazy: :sleep:
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Re: arghhhh docs!

Postby whoami » Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:24 pm

Richy....I also suffer with anxiety and depression. For some reason when we are told depression or anxiety could be part of the reason for the symptoms we present, we don't want to hear or accept that.
I know that when anxiety enters the equation I am out of control at times. I like many, want...no need..answers now. These answers also have to make total sense to me or I can't accept them. Years ago I also would google every symptom and then not liking what I read would then slip into a deep depression.
I spent quite a bit of time with a mental health professional trying to come to terms with things. Everything was discussed, my no longer being able to work, newly married, not understanding fibromyalgia, not understanding how I could feel so ill
I would certainly suggest that you go forward with a visit to the mental health unit. They can help relieve some anxiety and depression. I also think your Dr is right in doing all the tests to rule out things. Not that all these results that come back with no explanation for your symptoms give you any comfort. Have you seen a rheumatologist or a pain specialist? I feel you need to see someone who could give you a definite answer to you having fibro or not.

I hope you get some answers soon. In the meantime I would stay away from Mr. Google.
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Re: arghhhh docs!

Postby FluppyPuffy » Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:21 pm

I know we've touched on this in some of your previous posts, but I'm with Lisa and whoami about seeking some help with your anxiety side of things. The techniques that you can learn may well help stave off some of the physical effects you experience, as well as helping you deal with the thoughts, feelings and emotions that become stirred up and try to take over.

It's something I have gone thru before and it does have an effect of things. Before the sessions I had, I was climbing the walls on a good day, and ready to rip everyone and anyone's face off at the slightest thing because I got myself buried in a corner so deeply, it seemed like the only way I could go was downwards.

As I explored things with the health of a therapist tho, I slowly realised that I could also start going back upwards, and even now, 5 years after learning these techniques, I still use them to try and keep things as calm and settled as I can.

The only way you'll know if it will help you is to give it a try, and who knows what you could discover by doing that.
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Postby richy24 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:11 pm

Thanks again all.
Iv not noticed any trigger its just constant niggles and pains, arm weakness etc. Im trying to keep fit taking dog out etc and trying not to be so down.this constant jaw ache and swollen glands are really starting to make me really frustrated and im still waitin on word of dental app to get all checked.
Its the most awful thing checkin symptoms on net, i keep havin periods where im convinced its cancer, then something else then something else. Iv had 1 partner for over 6 years and before that only extremely low risk activity and it wasnt strangers, and still convinced myself it could be hiv as thts wot symptoms came up with online, then the more i read it said you wouldnt have constant swollen glands bla bla bla, its this awful going from thing to thing worrying but its so hard wen u feel this way and theres no explanation, and to make it worse the docs look at me like im barking mad. I cant seem to listen either wen they say theres nothing wrong, iv had bloods taken loads over years and nothing interesting coming up and urine tests etc all clear and all scans n xrays clear so i need to try and realise im ok in diseases respect and try to sort this major anxiety and depression as its making me feel so bad. Iv seen doc a few times for uncomfy peeing but again nothing. Going insane
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Postby FluppyPuffy » Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:41 pm

richy24 wrote:Thanks again all.
Its the most awful thing checkin symptoms on net, i keep havin periods where im convinced its cancer, then something else then something else. Iv had 1 partner for over 6 years and before that only extremely low risk activity and it wasnt strangers, and still convinced myself it could be hiv as thts wot symptoms came up with online, then the more i read it said you wouldnt have constant swollen glands bla bla bla, its this awful going from thing to thing worrying but its so hard wen u feel this way and theres no explanation, and to make it worse the docs look at me like im barking mad.

This is something you really need to try and stop doing as rather than giving you some helpful answers, it's just adding more fuel to the fire that is racing thru your mind. The more you look, the worse you will make yourself think and feel.

Maybe try limiting the time you spend online at a time, and the number of times per day you use the pooter. When you are on for that specific length of time, only look at certain things that are of relevance/interest, and when your time limit is reached, physically shut down your machine and go and do something else for a while.

If you don't feel that you can do this, try looking for something that you can set up so that it will automatically shut your machine down when you reach your time limit, or look at if anything in your settings can be done to limit the amount of time you can be on.
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Re: arghhhh docs!

Postby richy24 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:22 pm

I know i freak myself out to the max then go into a depression. I think its just really because iv been healthy and fine other than allergies and asthma all my life, even at that the doc said if i had a serious immune issue my asthma etc would be really bad too and its not.

Thanks so much for your time and patience i know im prob bein a pest. I value the help immensely as i just dnt have it elsewhere as im 'imagining' im sore! Accordin to all.

I need to try get past the pain and focus on other nice things.
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Re: arghhhh docs!

Postby richy24 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:14 pm

I feel like im losing grip. I phoned the counsellors and iv to wait for call bk. I feel so bad specially today im so tired i feel drained complety, iv been sweaty from heat and i have no appetite. I just want help i feel like thete is something really bad going on even though they say not. :cry: :cry:
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