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Postby carolad » Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:35 pm

Having been persuaded by a number of friends and your good selves, I phoned my GP this morning to see about getting my vitamin B12 levels checked. He was perfectly pleasant when I spoke to him (as he always is) and when I told him I had been a vegetarian for about 20 years and don't eat a lot of dairy products, which means I may be more prone to B12 deficiency, he agreed and said it would be a good idea to get it checked.

So I will get a blood test to get it checked...that is good. But why oh why oh why do I have to ask for everything myself? If he 'thought it was a good idea', why didn't he suggest it himself to start with? Absolutely everything I have got from my GP is because I have researched it myself and suggested it to him. Is he not supposed to be the one with the medical knowledge...is he not supposed to suggest things to me, instead of the other way round?

It is little wonder I have so little respect for the medical profession - in my experience, they have been as much use as a chocolate teapot ;)

Rant over :P :) x
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Postby keaedmondson » Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:56 pm

What is that phrase… Jack of all trades master of none??? I find the same thing. Going to the GP tomorrow and have a huge list of things I am going to say and I will be expecting done… Hope I don't get any contradictions! It is very exhausting though having to look up your own medications and read all the various articles about what tests you should ask for… ironic when we have a chronic pain and fatigue! Condition… I wish I got paid 100 grand or whatever it is! ;)
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Postby Lindilou » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:02 pm

Beacuse it means more work for him now that you have thought of it. If you hadn't he wouldn't of been bothered to - naturaly. :roll: :crazy:
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Postby JYB » Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:18 pm

Now come on!! A GP has hundreds, sometimes thousands of patients to look after and you want him/her to think about each individual patient and do just exactly what you think should be done?
Patients should take responsibility for their own health and that is exactly what you have done, well done. Treat your GP as a partner when discussing your health, you can then work together with the same aim!
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Postby rich44 » Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:28 pm

Yes I do expect EXACTLY that. When I am talking to him it's about me and no one else and he should be telling me what the plan is not me saying I would like...

I saw a Dr recently and said I need painkillers to replace the tramadol and he said what do you want?

Well I don't know, I could've suggested tapentadol or Butrans or fentonyl or oramorph or high dose of dihydrocodeine or Lord knows what else but I don't know what's suitable and what's a sledgehammer.

I don't expect my gp to think of me when I'm not in the room/phone well unless he's promised to look into options
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Postby lemurin » Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:33 am

I think it requires a bit of both sides to be honest.

I get what JYB is saying, because there are soooo many different medical conditions out there, it would be impossible for someone to know about all of them. Having said that, they should be eager to help and to find out what is wrong by suggesting tests and inquiring through other doctors. Sometimes they do need a little nudge by a patient and I am sure most are genuinely grateful that this happens. I have seen some doctors before using google to have a look at what symptoms are.
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Postby Queenie_70 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:07 am

Hi Carolad,

I can relate so closely to what you are describing. My daughter who passed away, was ill from birth. I lived in America (Alaska) at the time and I kept telling the doctors something wasn't right, that she was not as active as my other children. At 5 weeks old she was in intensive care for a respiratory infection that the doctor at the emergence room the night before said was croup and sent me home to give her steam treatment. His diagnosis was so wrong that I was killing her by adding liquid to her already filled lungs!!! It was then I was on a crusade to be her voice, be her soldier, and be pro-active.

Every time I saw a doctor for her I ordered her medical records to be sent to my home so I could go over them. Every appointment with her neurologist, I quizzed her about disorders I had researched and treatments that I had looked into. In her final days, it was me that called her doctor and ordered her to be put on morphine, knowing that doing so would be the last act of kindness I could provide. She had pneumonia, and we knew she would never recover, so the morphine allowed her to not struggle the last few days of her life.

Since I was diagnosed with fibro, I have gone from working 60 hours a week while taking night classes for my masters, to being stuck in bed on more days then I care to think about. I have been put in a coma by one doctor by giving me the wrong medication, and I realized then, I needed to be my own soldier and advocate because apparently no-one else was going to fight for me. The doctors I have had, come in a mixed bag of, remembering who I am and what I need to discuss, to blank stares and ignorance. I have moved 208 miles to try and get better treatment, but that too may have backfired. On top of this, I am my eldest daughters advocate for her mental illness and it seems that she is taking more care of me at the moment.

My goal today is to draft a letter to the Health Minister. I think it is time to take it to the top. Doctors, on the whole, do have the best intentions, and you at least have one who will agree to test you or consider what it is you have found out, but Fibro is still a condition that is ignored, and not treated the way it should be, as a whole person disease. To throw pills at the pain to shut us up is not treatment. We are living, breathing, real members of our communities, who just want, if not answers, at least to be taken seriously, to be listened to, and to be respected.

I often wonder if one healthy Minister was struck down with this, then how quickly things would change, but right now, we have to take each battle as it comes. I am sorry that you, along with us all, have this condition. I am sorry that with the little energy you have, it is spent wasted on figuring out what could help rather than spent with your family, and I am sorry that we all have to do this, when a good day maybe weeks away.

Sorry about the rant, but I get so hot under the collar, but more and more exhausted from fighting. I know though, I have to keep it up as the GP won't. Sad, but true.

Gentle hugs to all...xxx
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Postby carolad » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:48 pm

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Postby Queenie_70 » Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:27 am

Hi Carolad,

I too am looking into holistic versions of treatment. Indian head massage is something I used to treat myself to years ago, but now I am thinking of restarting it for the headaches and migraines. If I can relieve some of the tension, then maybe the headaches won't be quite as bad. I do find that a long hot bath is an amazing relaxant. When I have the time/energy/motivation to have one, I fill it to the brim and get in like bugs bunny does a cauldron....very carefully. Occasionally I will allow myself a glass of wine while I lay there up to my chin in bubbles and warmth. The only down side is I do find I get really itchy afterwards because all the pores are now open.

My youngest, Miranda, was and is an angel. I never thought I would be able to do what I did for her, but she made i easy by just being so amazing. I spent night after night on the internet gathering information to discuss with anyone of her doctors, (at the end of her life she was being treated by 30 different specialists). That experience should have made me realize when I was getting ill that it was time to hop back on the research wagon, but I had hoped it wouldn't be necessary.

Part of the problem is, a GP has 10 minutes to get you in the room, listen to what you have to say, scan their memory to see if they have come across or know what is going on, ergo make a diagnosis, decide on treatment, discuss this with you (and hope that you agree), and then write up your notes. It takes me almost that long just to walk to the door of his office!!!

I like to think of us, and I do mean all of us, as a miniature army, marching along and fighting for all who do not have a voice. Maybe one day we will win this battle :)

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