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Fibro and Bipolar

Postby annablack » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:44 pm

I have recently been diagnosed with fibromyalgia, but I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder some time ago. I find it very hard to deal with having depression due to bipolar, which can be over nothing at all, and then feeling depressed over my physical health. The other issue I have, is that being so limited physically when I was always such an active person, leaves room for my bipolar to hit hard when I'm stuck not being able to do anything because of the fibro. I know I need to learn how to balance everything, and I know it will come in time, but it's so frustrating when both illnesses are difficult enough to live with individually, let alone together. I know I've been posting a lot lately and I apologise, but I have so many thought's going around my head at the moment.
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Re: Fibro and Bipolar

Postby denys » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:52 am

Firstly Anna don't apologise for posting the forum wouldnt survive if everyone stopped posting :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D I'm sure it must be very difficult to live with both Bi-polar and FM and I know we have other members who suffer from both too.

I think you need to go back to see your doctor and explain how things are making you feel and how its all making your depression worse. maybe they can help with some alternative forms of treatment/therapy even looking at some of the community programmes around your area to see if they may help :fingerscrossed: :hugs: :hugs:
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Re: Fibro and Bipolar

Postby Andrew_Z » Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:25 am

Hello Anna. Your comments could almost be mine, as I have both bipolar and fibro. We both know how much we like to keep busy, our bipolar demands a busy, if not hectic lifestyle, but the fibro slows us down, and that inevitably increases our depression, that's what I've found. In a strange way the fibro might have had beneficial effects, such as toning down our frantic highs, but I find the constant pain and slow pace just makes me more stressed and frustrated, just like you say. I'll be interested to see how you cope because I'm still trying to find ways to get around this myself. I'm trying along the lines of finding things I can do that still excite me, but don't require much physical effort...and that might well be all we BP's with Fibro can do.
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Re: Fibro and Bipolar

Postby annablack » Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:34 am

The pain specialist that diagnosed me with fibro did say that the psychotherapy I'm waiting for where the bipolar is concerned, would double as part of the treatment for the fibro too. The trouble is, that we have very little resources around here for either illness. I do find that the fibro slows me down when facing highs, but then it seriously frustrates me, which can be quite dangerous depending on how extreme things are at that point. I'm still trying to find ways of coping, and I would be interested to see how others manage with the 2 illnesses.
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Re: Fibro and Bipolar

Postby sknowles456 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:34 am

i too have bipolar diagnosed 5 years ago after years of suffering. I am on a good medicine regime at the moment which has piled the weight on. I am awaiting diagnosis as it is my ibs specialist who thinks i have it as i have all the dreaded symptoms. The added physical pain to the mental pain is so draining and i understand how you feel. Let your feelings out on this forum. It has helped me since i joined the other day! x
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Re: Fibro and Bipolar

Postby annablack » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:53 am

I found myself going through a mixed manic phased for a good few days recently, and now I'm feeling better and more grounded for lack of a better term, I'm paying for it physically. All the things I was doing that I knew could hurt me physically, didn't seem to matter. I felt very much out of control. That side of the bipolar is in no way good for the fibro, that's for sure.
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Re: Fibro and Bipolar

Postby Andrew_Z » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:01 am

I'm often happy I've got fibro, simply to make it much harder for the DWP to bully me back to work with my bipolar and bad legs. However, the fibro can get so bad at times that I wish I hadn't got it. And of course fibro would be easier to bear if people understood and sympathised, but then so far I've never gotten any public sympathy for the bipolar, or my sore legs. I'm also now developing serious arthritis, so that's now rapidly catching up with the rest of my 'faults'. :( All in all it's better to have something other than bipolar to moan about simply so as not to scare those public idiots who think we are Jack The Ripper! :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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Re: Fibro and Bipolar

Postby sknowles456 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:43 pm

I got officially diagnosed today but the specialist could not offer me anything to help. Because i am bipolar and take sodium valporate i cannot take gabapentin or pregabalin because they are all anti seizure medications. I cannot take amitryptaline to help me sleep because i already take mirtazapine and citalopram which are also anti depressants. :-( He wouldn't entertain morphine patches so i am left to suffer with my cocodamol. I am going to ask my doctor to refer me to a pain clinic to see if i can get any joy there. I too am fed up with the DWP and feel bullied all the time. Also the ESA people annoy me. I recently had to fill in a form to see if i am in the work related group (ie i need to go to a job seeking interview twice a year) or the support group where you get more money and they don't bother you. Guess which group they put me in so i will be going to the job centre in 2 weeks to explain how some days i literally cannot get out of bed and how noone will employ me with my fuddled brain. It seems like a fight all the way, its not fair!
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Re: Fibro and Bipolar

Postby fibro-lu » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:36 pm

Andrew_Z wrote: :( All in all it's better to have something other than bipolar to moan about simply so as not to scare those public idiots who think we are Jack The Ripper! :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:


still, it is fun to gnarl :pull-hair: sometimes at people purely for home entertainment :cat2:

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Re: Fibro and Bipolar

Postby sjc » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:44 am

Hi there folks. I have bipolar ii disorder and classic fibromyalgia. Apparently some fibromyalgia sufferers have other comordid condition, like bipolar, IBS, clinical depression, etc. So not surprised that there's a few of us with fibro and bipolar. Me personally, I find these conditions really debilitating and what makes it worse is that there's no cure for them. Even when my bipolar is only in the mild stages, I still struggle coping with it. Also, I find it hard to know when I'm in a manic state especially when I have a fibro flare up. The trouble is that my fibro makes me tired and generally feel ill anyway, so I get confused sometimes as I don't know if I'm having a bipolar flare up or fibromyalgia flare up. Also, I noticed that since my fibromyalgia has got worse, that I cannot tolerate medication that is used for depression, i.e, anti depressants/anti pyscotics. From my experience, some time doctors are very cautious about giving fibromyalgia medication out to those with a history of mental illness. So one is abit stuck on what to have really. Take care folks.
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Re: Fibro and Bipolar

Postby annablack » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:35 pm

Hi sjc, I understand what you mean about recognising manic states. I find that I realise that I'm not myself but I never recognise it as a manic phase. It's actually my partner that points it out to me when I am manic. Thank god for him because I'm sure I'd be a complete wreck without him. I find that manic states of my bipolar can often cause flare ups, but at the minute I find that the fibro is so bad anyway, so I have to muddle through as best I can at all times.
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Re: Fibro and Bipolar

Postby fibro-lu » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:17 pm

that is exactly what I try to explain to the psychiatrist

mentally I am rope skipping and excited about all the colours (wow, Alice in Wonderland)), singing tralala, whilst shaking my tamburin to some wired rythm
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physically I am in pain and exhausted and can just about manage to make myself a cup of tea whilst still in my PJs

if that makes sense
if my body would be able to act it out, I would swing from branch to branch and back

maybe next time I'll see him I'll jump around on his furniture

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Re: Fibro and Bipolar

Postby annablack » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:21 pm

Yeah my psychiatrist isn't the easiest person to deal with either. He only hears what he wants to hear I think. He seemed to take me a bit more seriously since I was diagnosed with fibro though. He laughed at my little ocd ways. I did not find that amusing at all. I find it a shame we can't all stand together and say to everyone's psych dr or fibro drs and make them realise that what we're saying is true, and we're not alone in feeling it, that its all more serious than they take it.
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