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Prediabeties

Postby Iceskatemum » Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:01 pm

Following blood tests I have now been told I am showing all the signs of pre diabeties and that now is the time to take more control of things in my life if I don't want it to progress to Type 2 Diabeties . The nurse said I have to exercise more & eat more healthy diet.

I guess the diet is somethign I have know for a while as it has suffered over the last few years since I became ill. I can't seem to stand/cope with making dinners from scratch all teh time and have come to rely more and more of packaged sauces and the occasional ready meal or carry out. Sometimes my "dinner" could just be a piece of toast and a biscuit !

As for exercise , I can hardly manage to do the normal walking that most folk do in a day never mind a brisk 30 min walk 3 times a week.

Any thought or helpful advice much appreciated
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Re: Prediabeties

Postby FluppyPuffy » Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:03 pm

The pdf at the bottom might be useful ISM :bear-dancing: :bear-dancing: :bear-dancing: :bear-dancing:

I was given a copy of the booklet a couple of years ago when I was told I had diabetes, and initially started off following what it suggests, and the results were brilliant, my levels were coming down, and altho weight loss was slow, at least it was going in the right direction.

Unfortunately, I've lost my way with it recently, and need to start getting myself back on track again as I'm starting to experience the problems again that led to being dx'd :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

Hopefully tho, this won't happen with you and you'll be able to turn things back around.

Exercise~wise, with needing to start off gently and slowly, what about searching for info about keep~fit type things for those of an older generation. Not that I'm saying you're old ISM :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: Quite often, centres and homes run sessions for those who have limited mobility and the other problems that the likes of arthritis likes to give them, to try and help keep them moving as much as they can. These sessions often involve chair~based exercises which are designed so that they can move without putting additional strain on areas from standing up and jiggling their entire bodies about.
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Re: Prediabeties

Postby Iceskatemum » Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:26 am

Thanks Flup, for getting back to me, will take time to read over the booklet. I couldn't believe it when the nurse rang , I just feel my body has totally given up . Will have a look around for a variety of exercise I can do but given my fatigue levels are so high not sure any exercise is possible , think I remember see an ad for an over 50's exercise class in one of the local halls, so it might be worth giving it a go .

If you feel that you might like to try getting back on the right path with regarding what you eat etc, I am more than willing to be a virtual buddy just drop me a PM, that goes for anyone else of course as well . Whats the use of the power of the internet if we don't use it for good :)
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Re: Prediabeties

Postby SuperCat007 » Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:16 am

Hi, I may be in the same boat. Though my tests are scheduled for tomorrow morning and I am fully expecting them to come back negative despite all the discomfort I am in. :roll:

Anyway... I wanted to suggest a couple of things regarding the exercise. When my fibro was bad I started doing yoga, I had the Wii Fit Plus program which was really good. I found that the results were incredible, it wasn't very strenuous at all but my muscle tone improved after just a week of doing it. Then quickly I could do more and more. Maybe a class, or a DVD or a book? Or if you have a Wii then get the Wii Fit Plus game and have a go.

I also found this guy: http://www.youtube.com/user/Fibromyalgi ... ture=watch . He has his own website too, but a lot of it is 'positive thinking will make you better' waffle so I'd avoid it. But there is some good advice about diets etc on there. Some of the exercises are quite hard-core if you haven't done any exercise for a while. But they are all basic muscle stretches and even if you can just do one or two a day you will feel your heart rate increase as you do them. They are all designed to be low impact and non-repetitive (as much as exercise can be!)

Hope this might help a little.
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Re: Prediabeties

Postby whoami » Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:41 am

Iceskatemum....my hubby was diagnosed with type 2 almost 2 years ago. (His grandparents, father, brother and sister are/were all diabetic) Although being very physical at work exercise to him was what he said only bored people did, LOL
Anyway, he started eating three meals a day and 3 snacks. They did not have to be large meals but have plenty of carbs, protein etc. He lost 35 lbs and with the new diet of normal eating and meds his levels are great. Now....if he under eats then his levels are all over. Do what you can for mild exercise but make sure you eat. A snack before bed is important.

All you can do is your best. I hope things get sorted out for you.
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Re: Prediabeties

Postby Iceskatemum » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:51 am

Already had a scheduled appointment with GP today so was interested in what she would say re my recent blood tests. as per the nurses recent phone call it seems everything is fine apart from my fasting sugar test. As these have been creeping up over the last few years GP has asked that I see the diabetis nurse to discuss diet etc. am now due to see the specialist nurse next week for the 40 min appointment . Not sure what she'll say or do so calling on any diabetics out there to giveme some advice.

Was also interested in a recent report in the media that seemed to link a rise in diabetics with the increased use of anti depressants. .Seemed to suggest that long term use of anti D caused weight gain and it was this that was linked to the rise in diabetics

Anecdotally given we tend to use anti D quite a bit when dealing with Fibro has any one else out there also been dx diabetes a few years after & down the road from your Fibro dx.


SuperCat007 hope your blood work went ok on Monday adn you can very soon put this down to experience

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Re: Prediabeties

Postby zappa20 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:16 am

There's a very good chance you can turn this round with the right approach ISM. If you are overweight you need to lose some pounds unfortunately .Just losing some weight can be enough to stop this going any further as extra pounds make you insulin resistant.

From an insulin point of view try to reduce or eliminate sugary things from your diet and moderate your carbohydrate intake eg starchy things like potatoes and bread, pastry etc . Instead of things like carton fruit smoothies which are full of natural sugars try to eat the real fruit instead Bulk up meals with greens and salad.

From a calorie counting point of view try to also reduce your fat intake . Ready meals are often loaded with hidden carbs , fats, and sugars, so best avoided unless you can understand all the small detailed info on the label for carbs and fats per 100g, not the red amber green label. Morrisson's do a range of fairly healthy lunch pots which have around 300 to 500 calories in them , my husband takes them to work , 2 for £6. M&S do them too in light choices , you just need to check calorie + carb amount on them before buying.

I eat roughly 110 carbs a day, split into 3 lots of 30g carbs and 2 snacks of 10 and weigh around 10 and 1/2 stone and have no exercise at all due to leg circ, but never gain any weight.

For breakfast I'll have a yoghurt and bowl of berries, or couple slices grilled bacon or 2 eggs and 1 slice toast. (or 2 if small slices)

Lunch- bowl of vegetable soup + ham and tomato sandwich,or roast chicken , light mayonnaise + salad .

Evening meal - Homemade- roast chicken and 3 normal sized potatoes and veg or fillet steak and potatoes etc.

Sometimes just reducing portion sizes on your plate can be enough to help lose weight And stopping eating before you're full at each meal is good too.

Snacks are maybe a piece of fruit , small milky way or jaffa cake. I don't eat anything outwith these times, but I'm a brittle type 1 diabetic now ( due to gastroparesis one of several nasty complications of long term diabetic damage) so have to be very precise. You don't need to be so strict with yourself.

Grapes are full of sugar as are raisins, and so are some wines.

From an exercise point of view , due to heart and severe circulation point of view I'm lucky to get 30 feet at a time due to severe lack of circulation into legs and heart etc. But I get up and walk short distances stopping and starting umpteen times a day, even just up and down the hall or round the living room . Just tackling household chores burns calories, especially ironing guaranteed to lower blood sugar levels, if you put your mind to it. Swimming is obviously great if you can manage or just walking a short distance as frequently as you can will all help.

Really hope you can prevent this becoming a reality , as it's a condition I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. It attacks nearly every tissue and organ in your body (except the liver ) if your blood sugar levels are too high over a long period of time. Losing weight and eating properly will greatly improve your mood and energy levels as well. It won't be easy as Fibro can leave you feeling wiped out , and it's easier just to eat the first thing which is convenient, and think I'll do it differently tomorrow or next week.

But if you can stop this going any further now , from an overall health point of view it will be like winning the lottery. Wish you well.
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Re: Prediabeties

Postby zappa20 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:07 am

Anti depressants eg Amitryptiline slow down your matabolism so although you're maybe not eating more you need less calories to do what you previously did , and so gain weight. I ut on 3 stone over 2 years on Amityrpt for nerve pain and lost it all over a year when I stopped the tablets without ever changing my basic diet. Any excess weight gain regardless of reason for it happening carried for a long period of time is one of the main predisposing factors for insulin resistance.

Insulin allows glucose and energy to pass from the blood into every cell of your body to keep it alive and able to repair and function as well as give it energy. eg muscles , nerves. The more body tissue you have eg excess weight the more background insulin your system needs, and your pancreas has to produce. Add into that each time you eat and the food is digested into glucose the pancreas has to issue fast acting insulin to move the glucose into storage as fat or energy. the liver of fat or glucos store also produces glucose when needed , again insulin is need to tranfer into other cells for energy. If you're eating a diet heavy in carbs and sugars most of the day your pancreas is constantly working overtime.

At some point in this process your cells start to ignore the level of insulin which previously allowed glucose to be pass into them, so your blood sugar levels start to rise. The pancreas responds by releasing even more insulin which eventually persuades the cells to accept the glucose. at this point it may only be slightly noticeable after eating a meal , but resistance increases so more and more insulin is needed and eventually it's not just after eating that blood sugar levels rise above normal but even you haven't eaten, because the pancreas is straining to cope with even background insulin requirements to feed cells glucose .

This is when blood sugar rises even during fasting , at which point Type 2 diabetes is often diagnosed. Dependant on the severity type 2 can be controlled by diet or amy need tablets or even insulin.

If your fasting blood sugar levels are raised changing your diet and losing weight now can be enough to prevent any further deterioration. in this process.

Hope all that made sense. Am a bit tired at the minute. been up due to irregular blood sugar levels. Story of my life these days. lol.
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Re: Prediabeties

Postby Iceskatemum » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:33 am

Thanks Zappa20 your posts did indeed make sense and were very informative , am a bit fibro foggy myself at the moment so will have to re read a few times to take it all in before I see th enurse.

Sadly I know how awful diabeties can be, as a friend of my husband from uni days just didn't seem to keep her sugars down, & partied as if there was no tomorrow , move forward about 25 years and she is now registered blind although she can see a limited amount mostly shapes , the full loss of her sight is just somewhere down the line.
My sisters friend is also coping with the long term effects of diabeties and in hospital awaiting the amputation of her leg. all very scary especially at this time when I have been given this wake up call.

Thanks again and you can be sure I will use all advice given to me, as I do not want to be on here in a few years talking about full blown diabeties.

Good luck to you all & thanks for getting in touch

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