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TMJ and sinuses

Postby groovy_chick » Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:24 pm

Does anyone who has problems with their jaw (i.e. TMJ) also suffer from sinus problems and allergic rhinitis?

Few years back I started having problems with my jaw joint after I had awful salivary gland infection and since then I seem to have TMJ problems which my dentist treated with with re-aligning my bite, diclofenac etc.
I also seem to have constantly painful cheekbone on my left side of the face which radiates to my jaw and behind my eye and down the back of my neck (causing dull headaches), it also feels very stuffed. Both my dentist and my GP think this is to do with sinuses and my GP now thinks I possibly have nasal polyp that is casing the problem.

Anyone else out there suffering equally?
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Postby gillshutt » Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:01 pm

I'm exactly the same. As far as I can tell sinus problems and TMJ go hand in hand and the TMJ causes the pain in the cheek bone and also round the eyes.

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Postby groovy_chick » Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:04 pm

:cry: I wish I could swear but I would have to asterisk it all so quite pointless then SIGH lol did you find anything that helps for it Gill?
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Postby MCT » Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:16 pm

I have TMJ, Sinusitis and Chronic Rhinitis - suffering really badly yesterday and today with a b****y awful headache right behind my eyes. My whole face is sore, my sinuses painful, my right ear is aching and I can feel the tension running over my scalp and down into my neck - but apart from that I'm fine! :roll:

I get injections of botox for the muscle spasms in my right jaw every 3-4 months but over this last week or so I have been getting more and more clicking on both sides. I've been really, really tired (totally kn*ckered if the truth be told) and doing a heck of a lot of yawning lately so I don't think that's helping any with the jaw pains.

As you said, with the TMJ you just seem to have a permanent face ache -feels as though someone has landed a strong right cross on my cheek bones.
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Postby derekh » Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:44 pm

you could be expalining exactly the way i am feeling going to see e.n.t specialist next week been having this trouble for ages face feels like loads of pressure on it and pains around and behind my eyes pain down both sides of my face and swelling
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Postby groovy_chick » Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:03 pm

[quote="MCT"]I have TMJ, Sinusitis and Chronic Rhinitis - suffering really badly yesterday and today with a b****y awful headache right behind my eyes. My whole face is sore, my sinuses painful, my right ear is aching and I can feel the tension running over my scalp and down into my neck - but apart from that I'm fine! :roll:
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OMG that's exactly how mine feels! How did you get onto the Botox injections for spasm? Does your ear also feel like it's really stuffed and echoey?
I get lot of neck/shoulder ache/spasms which is possibly related to my posture but it seems to be a vicious circle cause if i have pain in the neck I also have pain in the head/jaw/cheekbone/sinus/behind eye so don't know what is casing what anymore :roll: Am seeing my dentist in couple of weeks, who is very good with things like that, so will ask him what he thinks.

Meanwhile am gonna give these new sprays try and combine them with hot compress
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Postby MCT » Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:35 pm

groovy_chick wrote: [OMG that's exactly how mine feels! How did you get onto the Botox injections for spasm? Does your ear also feel like it's really stuffed and echoey?


It was first mentioned to me by the oral/max specialist when I went to have a soft splint made. I told my GP about it and he said he'd find out more about it for me. Apparently, from what I understand, a Neurologist has to give the jab, and at the time I started about 3-4 years ago it was classed as experimental so I don't know how widespread the availability is now. My TMJ was so bad I could hardly talk or eat solid food.

My ear feels bunged up, I have tinnitus which seems to get louder when my sinuses are playing up and my balance can be affected. A while back I had that echo chamber effect which turned out to be an inner ear infection (labrynthitis?)
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Postby *Lisa* » Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:50 pm

I have TMJ/sinus pain and im under the care of my dentist.

Iv been seen by the maxiolfacial consultant who gave me exercises and said there was really nothing more he could do BUT....the dentist for the past 5yrs or more has been making me a mouth guard/splint.

Since wearing this nightly symtoms improved alot

I used to get severe neck pain/tightness in the troat/tongue was painful/chewing was hard/migraines.... etc

Maybe see about a splint from the dentist, it does cost anything from£60+ if you are intitled to free NHS perscriptions the NHS will pay 1 a year for you but i go through 2 as symptoms severe

Im very lucky as my dentist is using me as a case study! :o which means FM/TMJ will be brought up in meetings to other specialists about better ways of controlling sypmtoms and i have agreed to try what they suggest.

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Postby groovy_chick » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:27 pm

Lill wrote:
I used to get severe neck pain/tightness in the troat/tongue was painful/chewing was hard/migraines.... etc

Maybe see about a splint from the dentist, it does cost anything from£60+ if you are intitled to free NHS perscriptions the NHS will pay 1 a year for you but i go through 2 as symptoms severe



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I have had the splint before and yes it did help a bit with the night time symptoms as I also grind my teeth at night (sometimes I even wake myself up ooopppsss :oops: ) but at the moment my dentist is quite sure my pain is sinus related rather than TMJ however I will enquire when I see him next again.
I find the pressure/dull ache in the cheek and towards the side of the nose area near the eye and streching towards my jaw very annoying. I don't get tinnitus but usually this awful popping sensation when suddenly everything goes dull and distant and echoey in one ear and I have to lot of swallowing or blowing to make my ear pop and also get the feeling when you hear yourself breathe/speak funny :roll:
Oh well onwards and upwards or whatever the saying is lol
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Postby *Lisa* » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:40 pm

I also saw ENT consultant and had an MRI scan to make sure it was sinuses....

Maybe you need to see them to make sure its nothing else going on
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Postby groovy_chick » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:44 pm

Did you just have MRI head or full body? And how easy is it to obtain an MRI scan where you are?
Down here in the sticks (Norfolk) the average waiting time for non-urgent cases (which I guess this is) was about 20 odd weeks!!! although I think now patients are given the 'book and choose system' choice to travel to the hospital further away if they needed that scan and it can be done sooner there.
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Postby *Lisa* » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:47 pm

Im in Hertfordshire so not too far from you...

I had a head MRI... went in the big doughnut :shock:

When i saw ENT it was only a few weeks wait for the scan but a few months to see the consultant again :?
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Postby groovy_chick » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:48 pm

lol but you are in the home counties and that is posh lol

what was the outcome of your MRI and are you sure it wasn't a CT if it was a big doughnut as MRI is a long tube?
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Postby MCT » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:50 pm

Just to say that my referral to Oral/Max for a soft splint was made by my GP and was supplied by the hospital free of charge.
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Postby *Lisa* » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:51 pm

Yes CT :roll: it was a number of years ago now.

Posh!! :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: well i try to be but it doesnt work :shock:

It was all clear.... meaning TMJ was the cause of symptoms
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