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Arthritus and Fibro

Postby Pandaeyes » Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:02 pm

Hi Everyone

About a year ago I started having problems with my shoulder and lack of movement and pain. They thought it was rotor arm cuff something or other !! Anyway I didn`t respond to treatment and physio and had an X-ray, scan and MRI scan and was diagnosed with Arthritus in the clavicle. This now needs an operation ! It has also turned up in my fingers and possibly some other joints.
I noticed reading lots of other posts thats lots of you have arthritus as well.
My mum and nan both had rhematoid arthritus and I now have been tested for this and I do not carry the gene for it.
Is there a possible link between Fibro and Arthritus or would i have got this without Fibro anyway?
I have a list of other problems to do with skin, bowels,blood etc.
It seems that when you have Fibro you become a magnet for every other illnes lol.
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Re: Arthritus and Fibro

Postby *Lisa* » Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:32 pm

My physiotherapist did say we had more chance in developing arthritis as when the muscles stiffen it restricts the joints making them work harding and in turn wearing them down....
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Re: Arthritus and Fibro

Postby Countess Heather » Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:37 am

Quite Lisa. It stands to reason that `if you are limping' because of the foot on one leg, the other leg that is `carrying the damamged foot' will wear out sooner or later because it is compensaiting. You can have osteo artheritis OA instead of RA that will give you `knarled, disjointed fingers' that also splay sidewards looking like `flippers' and you dont have to have RA and be a little old lady to develp that - it was my hands that were on-fire last july 09 that woke me up and then spread within a few hours to give me my first fibro-flare up leaving me in agony for 3 weeks practically bed ridden. The key I belive is that `atheritis, is artheritis'. The difference is that with RA this can effect for instance the heart muscle, it has a `tumour factor that is also auto-immune responce' that will `flare-up' and attacks and breaks-down the joints ect, can be slowed down with most people through medications so that the distructive process is practically turned-off but not quite (hence flares at a reduced rate when controlled)and if the desease process is not controlled(a small percentage are intollereant to the permitted NICE drugs and being resistant) it can be as with cancer fatal ( these brave folk have blasted Fibro as well :sick: :banghead: ).
Im affraid that if you have OA the good news is that it will not kill you :crazy: but having it as well as Fibro means you still hav'nt escaped - you have drawn the shorter-straw twice, as there is currently nothing that will slow down the disease/inflamitory process in either! OA is still seen very much as a `slow old persons' disease when affecting the adults (excluding juvinile arthur) and so is not `fashionable' reguarding funding and research projects - it has no `tumour factor' to link it to cancer in the medical subcontious (I know that this sounds patronsing to the Rhumeys). And you will discover that having Fibro strangly has some similar oddities to RA like it can give a `low-grade' fever (whilest being sensative to the cold )which as a woman will be likned to the menapause or perimenapausal state, but is more connected to the Thyroide function which may test `fine' but is already lowering due to an imbalance between the 2 componants which make up `thyroxine' and unlike USA only one is tested for in UK. So you can still be `dispalying' symptoms like having a dry, tichy skin,felling the cold,corser wiry hair,that is thinning whilest given the all clear! Heather xx
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Re: Arthritus and Fibro

Postby smiler22 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:46 pm

panda eyes you sound ike the same as me atthe mo. i have congenital probs with my arms since birth an then had an accident at work to my arm. now i have been told taht my elbow joint is worn out and i have arthritis in it. but i am about to hav einjection xrays and mri on my shoulder in the same arm as they think i may have torn the rotar cuff...... so will be in teresting if i hav earthritis in it or not....

because of the problems i have had since birth arthritis is and has always been something i was told i would develop in my arms. so no suprising there then for me.... it just not nice having to have the fibro and cfs with it.
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Re: Arthritus and Fibro

Postby gillshutt » Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:01 pm

Got to have x-rays on my pelvis, hips and knees on Friday to see if my OA has spread to them as well as my back, neck, and hands :(
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Re: Arthritus and Fibro

Postby shazq » Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:33 pm

gillshutt wrote:Got to have x-rays on my pelvis, hips and knees on Friday to see if my OA has spread to them as well as my back, neck, and hands :(


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Re: Arthritus and Fibro

Postby gillshutt » Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:36 pm

They didn't do my knees.. apparently the gp had just put 'knees' down but not why so they said they couldn't do it.

Had a while to wait while they discussed the fact I hadn't had a period for 3 mnths... kept saying I wasn't pregnant but they went into a huddle to chat, then one asked if I was menopausal and I said I think so.. she said 'as long as you are sure you aren't pregnant' I said 'well if I am I've been pregnant for 2 years :shock: :lol:
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Re: Arthritus and Fibro

Postby normalnutter » Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:23 pm

Pandaeyes wrote:Hi Everyone

About a year ago I started having problems with my shoulder and lack of movement and pain. They thought it was rotor arm cuff something or other !! Anyway I didn`t respond to treatment and physio and had an X-ray, scan and MRI scan and was diagnosed with Arthritus in the clavicle. This now needs an operation ! It has also turned up in my fingers and possibly some other joints.
I noticed reading lots of other posts thats lots of you have arthritus as well.
My mum and nan both had rhematoid arthritus and I now have been tested for this and I do not carry the gene for it.
Is there a possible link between Fibro and Arthritus or would i have got this without Fibro anyway?
I have a list of other problems to do with skin, bowels,blood etc.
It seems that when you have Fibro you become a magnet for every other illnes lol.

:wave: :wave: All of my aunts and uncles on my dads side have this and my dad, but I dont think i do, they have offered x-rays this year I DIDNT SEE THE POINT :sick: :?:
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Re: Arthritus and Fibro

Postby Miss sleepy » Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:43 pm

THis is quite interesting as every female on my mums side of the family (nan, mum, auntys, my sister etc) all have either osteoparosis or osteoarthritis, my nans spine crumbled when she was 50, my 1 aunty has had 2 back operations, my sister had some sort of injections and my mum had a hip replacement before she was 50.
Worth asking for them to check for arthritis?
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Re: Arthritus and Fibro

Postby normalnutter » Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:41 pm

ive had all the blood tests all clear
Miss sleepy wrote:THis is quite interesting as every female on my mums side of the family (nan, mum, auntys, my sister etc) all have either osteoparosis or osteoarthritis, my nans spine crumbled when she was 50, my 1 aunty has had 2 back operations, my sister had some sort of injections and my mum had a hip replacement before she was 50.
Worth asking for them to check for arthritis?
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Re: Arthritus and Fibro

Postby gillshutt » Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:17 pm

OA doesn't show up on blood tests you would need an x-ray to show if you have it or not.
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Re: Arthritus and Fibro

Postby Helen Gillman » Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:13 pm

I have been having a look at the posts relating to FM and arthritis and was very interested to see other folks with the same problems I have. I was diagnosed 10 years ago with FM by a rheumatologist who I was only referred to by the GP I had at the time because I badgered her relentlessly. As is often the case I was referred back to GP for follow on after diagnosis and unfortunately for me I had a GP who was in the "you'll have to learn to live with it" brigade. I put up with this for many years with no really effective treatment. Then I moved to North Wales and found the most amazing GP who took me seriously and finally I was referred back to specialists who after various tests and x-rays discovered that as well as the FM I now also had advanced osteoarthritis in my hands knees and hips!!! I was also prescribed cymbalta and gabapentin and on this regime I was managing to hold down a full time job and lead a pretty normal life.

Then disaster struck, we had to move back to England due to family commitments and my new GP although good in many ways refuses to gIve me cymbalta and gabapentin and I am back on amitryptiline and codeine, the effect of which has been that my coping mechanism has completely broken down and I am no longer working.

Since September last year I have had a joint replacement in my left hand and left knee and due for one in my right knee at end of Feb. I have had massive flares after each procedure and feel really useless to anyone at the moment. I know it will get better, I've had episodes like this before but it is really hard sometimes to see a light at the end of the tunnel.

I just wondered if anyone out there had had similar experiences and if som how did you cope, particularly post surgery when everyone around you thinks you should be doing better than you really are :needhug:
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Re: Arthritus and Fibro

Postby LinzWorld » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:18 pm

Can you get another GP or see a good consultant? It isn't on that your GP wouldn't continue your medications when you moved as you know they work for you.
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Re: Arthritus and Fibro

Postby gillshutt » Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:14 pm

Hi Helen and welcome to the forum.. as Linz says you need to see someone else. Your GP is way out of order IMO :evil:
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